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[The Architect Of Fate]

You already agreed that they were crying wolf (the particular protestors in the story I brought up).

No, I didn't.

[The Architect Of Fate]

BLM has a legitimate goal and it must be judged on that goal alone. Pizzagate was an astroturf politically motivated conspiracy that never was about a concern for child trafficking thus its goal was phony and it can only be judged by the actions of its proponents. these two things cannot be compared.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So let's sum up 

1. IA plastered some cop apologists and Reich wing looney AJW essentially telling the BLM protesters to not get uppity (because no murder by the cops in his mind could justify protests because he's a cop simp) he just takes this one and makes it the norm by implication as if the fact that any murder by the cops alone wasn't justification enough to protest. And of course, black women being accosted is used as a prop to stave off accusations of racism as if the women's race has any bearing on their agenda.

2. Buro rightly points out this is racist bullshit and IA complains he did listen to enough of the fascist's bullshit and insists this isn't about race but idealogy and uses nonsense like black people not supporting defunding the police (which has nothing to do with them liking or trusting the police) and essentially engaging in IDPOL arguments to cover his ass.

3. Lastly IA then engages in a deranged comparison between a legit movement like BLM and an Astroturfed right wing pushed conspiracy like Pizzagate 

You can't make this shit up 

[The Grand Nudger]

Oh yeah, sure.  I can help you with that.  People are protesting the alarming rate of extra-judicial killings of brown people, and the tendency for those involved to avoid any meaningful consequence for their actions.  Paid leave has been the standard sentence for a man found to have killed a man otj as a police officer in the united states.  In some counties, states, or years, the cops even managed to kill more people than the criminals - which is something that had to be independently researched, because the cops are not obligated to track or keep that data, nor is there anyone or any agency that they must officially report it to.

This seems like it might be a problem.  As in...all of it.

Beyond that, though, it seems to me like this is advice you might want to take more to heart yourself - as you invariably show up whenever you've found some new racist bullshit that you feel compelled to share.  Maybe, be a little more sure about the details..and what you're protesting?  If you're just super duper committed to this, then get better material, from some other set of sources.  Additionally, conflating something with a religion is lazy criticism even if it did have similarities to a religion.

I can't imagine why a people who religiously believed that black lives matter would be a bad thing, and it's obvious that the cops haven't heard that good news.

Firstly, to you and Boru, an ideology is not a race,

Minor point of major correction..that's all a "race" is, in mere reality - oddly enough.

and most black people don't want to defund the police, so I debunked you there, and most social justice rioters are caucasian, so again, not racist to criticize people of all races for going off before the details of a case are in. You're getting awful close to the territory of people who say Kyle Rittenhouse, a caucasian male, racistly killed 2 other caucasian males. Logic, I know.

You debunked who were?  Yes, the racist ideology our boy kyle was mainlining was absolutely a factor in him becoming a murderer..in even putting himself into that situation, in the first place.  You could have derived a useful lesson from this example.  Racism doesn't just hurt The Blacks.  It hurt Kyle, and lead to the murder of two caucasians, after all.

No, this black life ceased to matter when he shot up his neighbours apartment, remained armed, and refused to give up himself. At that point, you need to be put down for the good of the neighbours, and that man decided that his own life didn't matter. I'm aware that he was mentally ill, but that's not a good enough reason to put his neighbours in further harm. The right course of action was taken. So no. You're wrong. Life doesn't always matter. Sometimes a rabid dog just needs to be put down, and there's no shame in it. If he was unarmed and shot, I'd be here saying that nothing any victim of his says justifies what the police did to him, but that is not the case here. So yeah, Nudge, being religious and taking the so called woke pill to the point where people are saying OJ was framed, Jussie Smollett was framed, and that the guy in this case should have been treated with kid gloves even though he tried to kill people and remained armed, that is problematic, because your movement is starting to morph more and more into the Black Hebrew Israelites by the day.

Would that be better or worse than the white hebrew isrealites?  I'm just trying to keep score.  If you disagree that life matters, just lead with that.  I think you can probably make that case without any of the racist horseshit you've been mainlining.  Try not to end up like poor kyle, putting down rabid dogs...okay?

[Jackalope]

In a break from all the non-news posts in this thread...


Steve Bannon has been found guilty of 2 counts of contempt of Congress. Sentencing is pending.

[Irreligious Atheist]

So let's sum up 

1. IA plastered some cop apologists and Reich wing looney AJW essentially telling the BLM protesters to not get uppity (because no murder by the cops in his mind could justify protests because he's a cop simp) he just takes this one and makes it the norm by implication as if the fact that any murder by the cops alone wasn't justification enough to protest. And of course, black women being accosted is used as a prop to stave off accusations of racism as if the women's race has any bearing on their agenda.

2. Buro rightly points out this is racist bullshit and IA complains he did listen to enough of the fascist's bullshit and insists this isn't about race but idealogy and uses nonsense like black people not supporting defunding the police (which has nothing to do with them liking or trusting the police) and essentially engaging in IDPOL arguments to cover his ass.

3. Lastly IA then engages in a deranged comparison between a legit movement like BLM and an Astroturfed right wing pushed conspiracy like Pizzagate 

You can't make this shit up 

The cops murdered the man in this case? Really? Was that a slip up because English is your second language, or did you really mean to post that? The man shot up his neighbours apartment, remained armed, and refused to surrender? Taking out a threat like that to the rest of the neighbours is freakin murder to you? Am I getting this right? Define murder for me, helios.

[Fake Messiah]

In America!

Hyundai subsidiary has used child labor at Alabama factory

Underage workers, in some cases as young as 12, have recently worked at a metal stamping plant operated by SMART Alabama LLC, these people said.

SMART, listed by Hyundai in corporate filings as a majority-owned unit, supplies parts for some of the most popular cars and SUVs built by the automaker in Montgomery, its flagship U.S. assembly plant.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusi...022-07-22/

[Irreligious Atheist]

Firstly, to you and Boru, an ideology is not a race,

Minor point of major correction..that's all a "race" is, in mere reality - oddly enough.

and most black people don't want to defund the police, so I debunked you there, and most social justice rioters are caucasian, so again, not racist to criticize people of all races for going off before the details of a case are in. You're getting awful close to the territory of people who say Kyle Rittenhouse, a caucasian male, racistly killed 2 other caucasian males. Logic, I know.

You debunked who were?  Yes, the racist ideology our boy kyle was mainlining was absolutely a factor in him becoming a murderer..in even putting himself into that situation, in the first place.  You could have derived a useful lesson from this example.  Racism doesn't just hurt The Blacks.  It hurt Kyle, and lead to the murder of two caucasians, after all.

No, this black life ceased to matter when he shot up his neighbours apartment, remained armed, and refused to give up himself. At that point, you need to be put down for the good of the neighbours, and that man decided that his own life didn't matter. I'm aware that he was mentally ill, but that's not a good enough reason to put his neighbours in further harm. The right course of action was taken. So no. You're wrong. Life doesn't always matter. Sometimes a rabid dog just needs to be put down, and there's no shame in it. If he was unarmed and shot, I'd be here saying that nothing any victim of his says justifies what the police did to him, but that is not the case here. So yeah, Nudge, being religious and taking the so called woke pill to the point where people are saying OJ was framed, Jussie Smollett was framed, and that the guy in this case should have been treated with kid gloves even though he tried to kill people and remained armed, that is problematic, because your movement is starting to morph more and more into the Black Hebrew Israelites by the day.

Would that be better or worse than the white hebrew isrealites?  I'm just trying to keep score.  If you disagree that life matters, just lead with that.  I think you can probably make that case without any of the racist horseshit you've been mainlining.  Try not to end up like poor kyle, putting down rabid dogs...okay?

So you've bragged about how you felt nothing inside when you killed people while in the army, who were a threat to your ass, but these neighbours lives were at risk and you can't accept that sometimes people just need to be put down because there's no other choice in the matter? If this was the future and there was some better tech and weaponry to take down this shooter non-lethally, then of course that would be preferred, but when it comes to life mattering, the lives of the neighbours come before the life of the shooter who remains armed and refuses to tap out. Every life matters, until innocent lives are at severe risk like in this case, and then the shooters life starts mattering a whole lot less, for the good of the community.

And yeah, call me Smittenhouse for Rittenhouse, I don't care, but the dude had every right to be there as a citizen of the United States, and things turned out a hell of a lot better than they could have, so props to Kyle for handling himself correctly and for his shot being so good that night. The dude can't go on media without bringing along his emotional support dog, so that doesn't quite sound like a cold blooded killer to me.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

In a break from all the non-news posts in this thread...


Steve Bannon has been found guilty of 2 counts of contempt of Congress.  Sentencing is pending.

I was surprised to learn that the minimum sentence he faces is 30 days. I would have imagined that the penalty for ignoring a Congressional subpoena would be stiffer.

Boru

[Jackalope]

In a break from all the non-news posts in this thread...


Steve Bannon has been found guilty of 2 counts of contempt of Congress.  Sentencing is pending.

I was surprised to learn that the minimum sentence he faces is 30 days. I would have imagined that the penalty for ignoring a Congressional subpoena would be stiffer.

Boru

Hopefully his contempt for the law and the J6 committee are considered.

I'm not going to hold my breath.