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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 9:46 am
The nuts were babbling about this, so, IA dutifully brings it to us. Perfect fit for the thread.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 11:32 am
(August 18, 2022 at 9:10 am)HappySkeptic Wrote: (August 18, 2022 at 7:00 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Trump's former White House coronavirus response coordinator, Dr. Deborah Birx said she knew from the start of the pandemic that vaccines were not going to protect against infection, and now says we overplayed vaccines.
No, she did not "know from the start", and her comment about "overplaying" the vaccines was a lament about how getting people to think the vaccine was perfect (something neither she nor the CDC said) made them act irresponsibly, and therefore infect others. Then, when it was clear it wasn't perfect, it also undermined faith in the vaccine.
She was always pro-vaccine, though the vaccine hasn't kept pace with variants, and is only a partial help at this point.
I didn't claim she wasn't or isn't pro-vaccine. That was not the point. The point is she knew Fauci and other doctors and scientists and media talking heads were pushing untruths with the herd immunity talk. She says she knew from the start the vaccines were not going to prevent spread, but rather would help with severity of infection, and it's the spread part that would be relevant for school children, who are not required to be vaccinated for covid in 99.9 % of schools.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 12:12 pm
Mhm, and in 2020 she said "Right now, we don't know how great these vaccines might be against preventing infection".
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 12:46 pm
I don't think anyone claimed that vaccines would get us to "herd immunity", in the sense that it would eradicate the virus. It did reduce both infection and severe disease. Even at its best, the vaccines were only 85% effective at preventing infection, and that prevention waned quickly with time. The variants have made prevention of infection a lot less now.
What wasn't known early was the degree to which asymptomatic infections could spread the disease, and Deborah Birx was fighting against the Trump Whitehouse in trying to present that risk.
I love how the Right is convinced that Fauci and all other scientists are liars or Democratic shills, just because the Right has decided the vaccines are lies.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 12:47 pm
(August 18, 2022 at 9:46 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The nuts were babbling about this, so, IA dutifully brings it to us. Perfect fit for the thread.
You mention its name and it shows up...Stop that!
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 2:05 pm
Yay IA returns to spew his
Anti Sane health policy bullshit
Anti Vaccine nuttery
Anti Fauci blather
I ever so missed having nonsense and insanity smeared all over the boards ..... 
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 5:21 pm
(August 18, 2022 at 2:05 pm)Helios Wrote: Yay IA returns to spew his
Anti Sane health policy bullshit
Anti Vaccine nuttery
Anti Fauci blather
I ever so missed having nonsense and insanity smeared all over the boards .....
The CDC does not recommend a vaccine mandate for school children, and instead recommends a de-escalation and ending of many covid restrictions like social distancing and quarantine. What happened to "trust the science" and "the CDC knows best"?
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 5:31 pm
Oh, please shut up or find a Canadian forum to troll. Maybe they need you. We here in Ameristan, don't.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 6:41 pm
I don't care IA so kindly piss off
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
August 18, 2022 at 7:48 pm
(August 18, 2022 at 5:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Oh, please shut up or find a Canadian forum to troll. Maybe they need you. We here in Ameristan, don't.
When did you become anti-CDC? Sounds like you and the anti-vaxxers have something in common now.
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