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RE: Moral justification for the execution of criminals of war?
August 19, 2022 at 5:35 am
(August 19, 2022 at 12:12 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm a gun owner who..like most gun owners in the us, believes that we need common sense gun control. Losing it's moral integrity? What moral integrity? The mere possibility of that went out the window at sandy hook. I had to have a conversation with the wife about whether we even wanted to put our kids back in school for high school - for that and obviously many other reasons in the current educational environment in the us. I know one place where my kids will not get shot, not accidentally, and not over a fuckin tv either. Some ridiculous home intruder scenario goes down (which it wont, because they don't) - imma make him breakfast and iron his fuckin undies if he gets him out of there with no shots fired. Take my car keys while you're at it. You see, this is the trouble with arguing against the boogeymen in your mind, rather than discussing things with the person right in front of you. I, personally, am done shooting at people. There are no clauses or exceptions to this...and I take a dim and very public view of people who believe that gun nut shit is somehow good for gun owners. All of this is, perhaps...not even remotely germaine.,.because I think we both understand that what is legal and what is moral are not interchangeable...at least not in the us, even by the us' own quixotic and often spotty moral views.
Well, then I can say I admire this about you-- your position seems consistent across the board.
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RE: Moral justification for the execution of criminals of war?
August 19, 2022 at 11:03 am
Cant believe this thread still going on.
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RE: Moral justification for the execution of criminals of war?
August 19, 2022 at 11:05 am
It's a contentious issue in some places, mostly places that kill killers.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Moral justification for the execution of criminals of war?
August 19, 2022 at 11:11 am
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2022 at 11:14 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 19, 2022 at 5:35 am)bennyboy Wrote: Well, then I can say I admire this about you-- your position seems consistent across the board.
..ofc..they would be expected to be, as I'm a committed and thoughtful objectivist with interesting life experiences that have both given me cause and extremely large amounts of time to consider this stuff and my relationship to it.
Relativist, subjectivist, and emotivist positions need not be consistent, however, and there is no virtue in consistency to admire in any of those views genuinely held. It could be good for society not to kill it's own killers, but to kill everyone else (and not just their killers). A person could hate the idea of being personally subjected to such a trial but love the idea of someone else being personally subjected to the trial..and we can, ofc, have complex and directly conflicting emotional and noncognitivist apprehensions over a single object or item or proposition. Things can be good for society or good for specific individuals or yum one day, but not the next day.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Moral justification for the execution of criminals of war?
August 19, 2022 at 7:03 pm
(August 19, 2022 at 11:03 am)Macoleco Wrote: Cant believe this thread still going on.
It's a bunch of tired old men in a forum. We could be talking about the best color of turtle, and the threads would be as long and contentious.
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