(September 8, 2022 at 1:36 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(September 8, 2022 at 1:21 pm)Angrboda Wrote: You have no proof Ahriman has half a brain!I'm smarter than you and everyone you know.
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The existence of God
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I do not see chance, necessity, or providence as mutually exclusive concepts. To my way of thinking, different species converging on similar solutions, like the compound eye in both cephalopds and tetrapods, seems remarkable. That said, octopi have a much different solution to attain intelligence, which is equally remarkable. So the idea that there are at least some latent patterns or dispostions for Nature to prefer certain adaptation is IMHO an open question. Besides, i would expect imperfection in a world corrupted by sin.
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 (September 8, 2022 at 1:53 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I do not see chance, necessity, or providence as mutually exclusive concepts. To my way of thinking, different species converging on similar solutions, like the compound eye in both cephalopds and tetrapods, seems remarkable. That said, octopi have a much different solution to attain intelligence, which is equally remarkable. So the idea that there are at least some latent patterns or dispostions for Nature to prefer certain adaptation is IMHO an open question. Besides, i would expect imperfection in a world corrupted by sin. When was the first sin? I ask, because, imperfections go back to the origin of life itself.  RE: The existence of God
September 8, 2022 at 2:03 pm
(This post was last modified: September 8, 2022 at 2:03 pm by Ahriman.)
(September 8, 2022 at 1:53 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I do not see chance, necessity, or providence as mutually exclusive concepts. To my way of thinking, different species converging on similar solutions, like the compound eye in both cephalopds and tetrapods, seems remarkable. That said, octopi have a much different solution to attain intelligence, which is equally remarkable. So the idea that there are at least some latent patterns or dispostions for Nature to prefer certain adaptation is IMHO an open question. Besides, i would expect imperfection in a world corrupted by sin.Nah, sin has nothing to do with it. God intentionally made a flawed world and then made humans knowing they would have to live in a flawed world. We have free will but since everything is flawed and generally shit, we are extremely (irresistably) prone to making poor decisions that harm us. Most people don't seem to understand this very basic concept, for some reason. If you want to know why the world sucks, you would have to ask God. He is the true source of all this shit. People want to blame other things, other factors, other people. But it really is God's fault/doing.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
Right, because he's the incompetent operator of a faulty soul forge.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(September 8, 2022 at 2:03 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(September 8, 2022 at 1:53 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I do not see chance, necessity, or providence as mutually exclusive concepts. To my way of thinking, different species converging on similar solutions, like the compound eye in both cephalopds and tetrapods, seems remarkable. That said, octopi have a much different solution to attain intelligence, which is equally remarkable. So the idea that there are at least some latent patterns or dispostions for Nature to prefer certain adaptation is IMHO an open question. Besides, i would expect imperfection in a world corrupted by sin.Nah, sin has nothing to do with it. God intentionally made a flawed world and then made humans knowing they would have to live in a flawed world. We have free will but since everything is flawed and generally shit, we are extremely (irresistably) prone to making poor decisions that harm us. Most people don't seem to understand this very basic concept, for some reason. If you want to know why the world sucks, you would have to ask God. He is the true source of all this shit. People want to blame other things, other factors, other people. But it really is God's fault/doing. You're starting to make more sense; keep going! (September 8, 2022 at 2:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote:It still makes sense to support God outwardly since most people believe in God. You have to be all the way behind someone before you can stab them in the back.(September 8, 2022 at 2:03 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Nah, sin has nothing to do with it. God intentionally made a flawed world and then made humans knowing they would have to live in a flawed world. We have free will but since everything is flawed and generally shit, we are extremely (irresistably) prone to making poor decisions that harm us. Most people don't seem to understand this very basic concept, for some reason. If you want to know why the world sucks, you would have to ask God. He is the true source of all this shit. People want to blame other things, other factors, other people. But it really is God's fault/doing.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
(September 8, 2022 at 2:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(September 8, 2022 at 2:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: You're starting to make more sense; keep going!It still makes sense to support God outwardly since most people believe in God. You have to be all the way behind someone before you can stab them in the back. You've gone back to not making sense. (September 8, 2022 at 2:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(September 8, 2022 at 2:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: You're starting to make more sense; keep going!It still makes sense to support God outwardly since most people believe in God. You have to be all the way behind someone before you can stab them in the back. Yeah...sure, christianists are back stabbers.....religiously or politically..... but what if I prefer to stab a motherfucker to his face?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(September 8, 2022 at 3:21 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:Then you're a Muslim.(September 8, 2022 at 2:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote: It still makes sense to support God outwardly since most people believe in God. You have to be all the way behind someone before you can stab them in the back.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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