What do you think about the police?

[FlatAssembler]

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Boru

[Jehanne]

Can't live with them (sometimes); can't live without them (always).

[FlatAssembler]

Can't live with them (sometimes); can't live without them (always).

So, you think police protects us? Like I've said in the post that @BrianSoddingBoru4 deleted, I don't see how exactly police protects us. The police nearly always only comes after a psychopath has already murdered somebody. And then, nearly always, they put that psychopath not to a place where they will rehabilitate, but to a place from which they will return with even more psychological problems that made them murder in the first place. Once you think about it that way, it looks like the police is actually making us less safe, rather than protecting us.

[Jehanne]

With the police, the exceptions do not prove the rule. Most to virtually all police officers are decent human beings who work odd shifts in the name of public service.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Can't live with them (sometimes); can't live without them (always).

So, you think police protects us? Like I've said in the post that @BrianSoddingBoru4 deleted, I don't see how exactly police protects us. The police nearly always only comes after a psychopath has already murdered somebody. And then, nearly always, they put that psychopath not to a place where they will rehabilitate, but to a place from which they will return with even more psychological problems that made them murder in the first place. Once you think about it that way, it looks like the police is actually making us less safe, rather than protecting us.

Cops don’t actually make citizens less safe or more safe (study after study show that putting more cops on the street has no effect on crime rates). 

But your complaint about cops only getting there after the fact is just plain dumb and stupid - that what cops are there for. I wouldn’t care to live in a society where the police arrested people before crimes were committed. And the police aren’t the ones putting psychopaths into prisons instead of hospitals, that’s done by judges and juries.

Boru

[paulpablo]

The police just are what they are. A government has power and use the police, in theory, to try and cap civilian violence and crime.

How violent and corrupt they are varies country to country, city, town and varies on an individual level.

It's like asking what I think about bus drivers. Most of the time they drive the bus alright but sometimes they crash and everyone dies.

I've been helped out by the police, it was actually me calling for them to help out other people but they turned up and helped out.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The police just are what they are. A government has power and use the police, in theory, to try and cap civilian violence and crime.

How violent and corrupt they are varies country to country, city, town and varies on an individual level.

It's like asking what I think about bus drivers. Most of the time they drive the bus alright but sometimes they crash and everyone dies.

I've been helped out by the police, it was actually me calling for them to help out other people but they turned up and helped out.

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Which is exactly what police should be doing - helping people and catching criminals.

Boru

[The Valkyrie]

Synchronicity was great.

[TaraJo]

I don't think police are inherently bad, but I can see why people don't like them.

Yeah, a lot of laws that they enforce aren't just. I can get past that, somewhat, by chalking it up to the price to live in a society with other people whose values aren't always the same as mine.

But I do think they get away with WAY too much. If I'm walking down the street, minding my own business, a cop could probably just walk up on me, shoot me dead for no reason and get away with it. A random stranger couldn't get away with that, but cops will.

Personally, I think, with all the training and equipment and backup cops get, they should be held to a higher standard than the general public, not a lesser standard. If we're going to accept as justification for killing someone that a cop feared for their life or they panicked, why can't we accept that justification from the general public? Better question is this: if fearing for your life is justification to kill someone and we've all see cops kill people under questionable circumstances, couldn't you justify killing a cop because you're afraid for your life?

And that's not even going into the racial differences in how cops treat black people vs white people or the reaction cops have towards violent right wing protests vs peaceful left wing protests.

Yeah, police are a necessity but they need major reform.

[brewer]

Cops don’t actually make citizens less safe or more safe (study after study show that putting more cops on the street has no effect on crime rates). 

But your complaint about cops only getting there after the fact is just plain dumb and stupid - that what cops are there for. I wouldn’t care to live in a society where the police arrested people before crimes were committed. And the police aren’t the ones putting psychopaths into prisons instead of hospitals, that’s done by judges and juries.

Boru

Minority Report hater.