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		RE: Women's Rights April 14, 2023 at 8:25 pm 
		 (April 14, 2023 at 7:54 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:   (April 14, 2023 at 8:50 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:  This too, is not a rebuttal. You think I have to explain why societal rules exist?
 
I’d like to see you give it a try.
 Quote:If a woman wanted to use a male public restroom, while weird, I think men would have zero issue, for reasons that should be obvious, it's not acceptable for men to be in a public women restroom occupied by women. 
It’s not at all obvious. Could you expand on that?
 Quote:Whats crazy is it's believe all women until they tell you they don't wan men cosplaying as women all up in their personal spaces. 
How many women did you survey? Genderless public toilets are ubiquitous in the Scandinavian countries and don’t seem to be a problem.
 
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		RE: Women's Rights April 14, 2023 at 8:40 pm 
		They don't seem to understand that MTF isn't a man.
	 
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		RE: Women's Rights April 14, 2023 at 8:43 pm 
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2023 at 8:43 pm by The Valkyrie.) 
		Personally, my experiences with unisex toilets is that every goes in, quietly does their business whole ignoring those around them, wash their hands, and leaves.
 I've yet to encounter a bathroom of any kind that has a party going on or looked like a set from Priscilla, Queen of the Desert
 
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		RE: Women's Rights April 14, 2023 at 8:46 pm 
		 (April 14, 2023 at 8:40 pm)Tomato Wrote:  They don't seem to understand that MTF isn't a man. 
Unsurprising since they're continuing to conflate sex (biology) with gender (sociology), even after being corrected.  It's almost as if they're willfully wrong.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Women's Rights April 14, 2023 at 9:08 pm 
		 (April 14, 2023 at 8:46 pm)Jackalope Wrote:   (April 14, 2023 at 8:40 pm)Tomato Wrote:  They don't seem to understand that MTF isn't a man. Unsurprising since they're continuing to conflate sex (biology) with gender (sociology), even after being corrected.  It's almost as if they're willfully wrong.
 
Having to use the restroom is a biological function,  is is not?
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Women's Rights April 15, 2023 at 5:08 am 
		 (April 14, 2023 at 9:08 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:   (April 14, 2023 at 8:46 pm)Jackalope Wrote:  Unsurprising since they're continuing to conflate sex (biology) with gender (sociology), even after being corrected.  It's almost as if they're willfully wrong. Having to use the restroom is a biological function,  is is not?
 
Of course it is, but which public toilet to use for that biological function is a sociological matter.
 
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		RE: Women's Rights April 15, 2023 at 2:02 pm 
		Quote:Whats crazy is it's believe all women until they tell you they don't wan men cosplaying as women all up in their personal spaces. 
There is a difference between believing women who have been sexually assaulted and not bending to the whim of Karens and Bigots. Oh, and Trans women aren't men they are women. Deal with it.
	 
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		RE: Women's Rights April 15, 2023 at 2:07 pm 
		Quote:You think I have to explain why societal rules exist? 
 Once in Canada Jews were not considered full citizens that was a societal rule. Arguing from societal rules is a poor argument.
	 
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		RE: Women's Rights April 15, 2023 at 2:09 pm 
		Quote:If a woman wanted to use a male public restroom, while weird, I think men would have zero issue, for reasons that should be obvious, it's not acceptable for men to be in a public women restroom occupied by women 
This is an opinion, not a fact, and who cares if women don't want Trans people in the restroom?
	 
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		RE: Women's Rights April 15, 2023 at 2:10 pm 
		Quote:Having to use the restroom is a biological function,  is is not? 
Taking a shit is a biological function. Were people take a shit is not biological.
	 
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