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New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
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New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 11:07 am
Seem pretty fucked up to me.

They got a new law - that if you are born after a certain date - you can NEVER buy tobacco products....
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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 11:17 am
Well, I guess I can scratch that hellhole off my list of retirement options.
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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 11:24 am
Yeah, mean old NZ, taking steps to stamp out a disgusting dangerous habit. Oh, the shame if it all.

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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 11:55 am (This post was last modified: December 9, 2021 at 11:55 am by onlinebiker.)
(December 9, 2021 at 11:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, mean old NZ, taking steps to stamp out a disgusting dangerous habit. Oh, the shame if it all.

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Hey - you could get rid of all sorts of nasty behavior by taking away the right to free speech. And let' s end bullying by restricting internet usage by people born after 1960.....

It will be a utopia......


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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 11:57 am
Sounds like a good idea.. not having that stink when walking behind a smoker!
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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 12:03 pm
(December 9, 2021 at 11:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(December 9, 2021 at 11:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, mean old NZ, taking steps to stamp out a disgusting dangerous habit. Oh, the shame if it all.

Boru

Hey - you could get rid of all sorts of nasty behavior by taking away the right to free speech. And let' s end bullying by restricting internet usage by people born after 1960.....

It will be a utopia......


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Free speech and online bullying don’t take $6 billion out of the New Zealand healthcare system every year. Secondhand free speech doesn’t cause 1700 new cases of childhood asthma every year. Neither of the things you sneakily mention cause cancer, emphysema, bronchitis, tooth loss, gum disease, and a stench that would knock a buzzard off a gut wagon.

Someone else’s ‘right’ to smoke shouldn’t infringe to my right to fucking breathe.

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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 12:03 pm (This post was last modified: December 9, 2021 at 12:06 pm by onlinebiker.)
(December 9, 2021 at 11:57 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Sounds like a good idea.. not having that stink when walking behind a smoker!

I don' t smoke. Or chew. Or stuff cigars up my ass (is that a thing? I'll bet there' s a dedicated web site).
I don't allow it in my house or car..I barely tolerate it outdoors. (Don' t be pitching your butts in my yard).

But - creating second class citizens hardly seems like an equitable way of handling a distasteful habit.
(December 9, 2021 at 12:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 9, 2021 at 11:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Hey - you could get rid of all sorts of nasty behavior by taking away the right to free speech. And let' s end bullying by restricting internet usage by people born after 1960.....

It will be a utopia......


Goodnight

Free speech and online bullying don’t take $6 billion out of the New Zealand healthcare system every year. Secondhand free speech doesn’t cause 1700 new cases of childhood asthma every year. Neither of the things you sneakily mention cause cancer, emphysema, bronchitis, tooth loss, gum disease, and a stench that would knock a buzzard off a gut wagon.

Someone else’s ‘right’ to smoke shouldn’t infringe to my right to fucking breathe.

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If it' s that bad (and I agree it is) - don' t allow it. Period.



But - take a look at the US model of prohibition ( alcohol)  as a model of what to expect.
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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 12:10 pm (This post was last modified: December 9, 2021 at 12:15 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(December 9, 2021 at 12:03 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(December 9, 2021 at 11:57 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Sounds like a good idea.. not having that stink when walking behind a smoker!

I don' t smoke. Or chew. Or stuff cigars up my ass (is that a thing? I'll bet there' s a dedicated web site).
I don't allow it in my house or car..I barely tolerate it outdoors. (Don' t be pitching your butts in my yard).

But - creating second class citizens hardly seems like an equitable way of handling a distasteful habit.

On the contrary, it seems like the best way. In addition to banning tobacco use by people born after 2004, I’d like to see a rider attached to the law making it a protected right to douse public smokers with concentrated air freshener, or (best case) animal feces.

Boru

Your edit: I would LOVE to see the tobacco ban follow the Prohibition model. Imagine it - gangs of licensed law-enforcement types raiding illegal smoke-easies, carting people off to jail, smashing up tobacco dens, and so on. I’d even be ok with the creation of a new segment of organized crime for cops to go after. Just thinking about is giving me a tingle in my special place.
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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 12:21 pm
The New Zealand Nicotine Mafia appreciates your support.....
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RE: New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.
December 9, 2021 at 12:48 pm
(December 9, 2021 at 12:21 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The New Zealand Nicotine Mafia appreciates your support.....

Think it through - turf wars, larger-than-life crime lords, real excitement on the evening news…

The world needs another Al Capone.

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