If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist

[R-Farmer]

what year were you invented? as the word ;invented' does not apply to what is being described.

Okay, are you saying the first time jesus ever made an appearance was after he was born from god having sex with a young virgin?

When was the Holy Ghost born or hand crafted by god?

God is a title and not a specific individual's name. God did not hand craft or invent himself.

Like wise God the Son who we know as Jesus like the father and Spirit was always in existence.

Jesus was the name of the Human host that contained the Spirit/Soul of God the Son. The Host body was born of marry.

[R-Farmer]

god is make believe. The babble is a crock of shit!

ok cool. these post are aways easy to answer.

[R-Farmer]

what disqualifies what Jesus teaches in Luke 11 but validates what you believe about HIS religion? Meaning why is your belief about who and what God is more valid than what Jesus is recorded saying in the Bible?

Because Jesus offered no evidence able to withstand anything with even the faintest hint of modern scrutiny.   Not only is Jesus not my or any educated person’s equal in the weight that his alledged saying could possibly deserves, Jesus is literally nothing as far as the weight of his alledged pronouncements.   There is nothing that he alledgedly said that is of evidentiary value, and there is nothing of evidentiary value to show he actually said any of the nothing he putatively said


He is nothing, squared, as support or guide or evidence during serious exploration of reality.

So the author and inspiration of a given religion is not 'expert' enough to comment on his own religion?
Wouldn't that be like Not taking the word of Elon Musk on a raptor engine design of his own making?

[arewethereyet]

I have to assume that pretzel shape, with a side of inside out, is comfortable for some people.

[Anomalocaris]

Because Jesus offered no evidence able to withstand anything with even the faintest hint of modern scrutiny.   Not only is Jesus not my or any educated person’s equal in the weight that his alledged saying could possibly deserves, Jesus is literally nothing as far as the weight of his alledged pronouncements.   There is nothing that he alledgedly said that is of evidentiary value, and there is nothing of evidentiary value to show he actually said any of the nothing he putatively said


He is nothing, squared, as support or guide or evidence during serious exploration of reality.

So the author and inspiration of a given religion is not 'expert' enough to comment on his own religion?
Wouldn't that be like Not taking the word of Elon Musk on a raptor engine design of his own making?

What a remarkably silly question.  Would a liar be expert enough to make his lies true?


also, what amazingly total ignorance of the meaning of “reality” you betray.    Reality is not what “expert’ says.  It is what they can show under scrupulous and never ending examination.    Also elon didn’t design or make the raptor engine.  He caused it to be made.   And neither his word, nor the words of his engineers who actually designed and made the engine and who can be specifically identified and named, means anything at all if the principles they espouse for the engine is not otherwise proven and verifiable,  or if the engine itself could not be presented for examination and demonstrated to work under testing of scrupulous rigor and in actual use.

See how far “pay me now for these fantastic engines and it will work wonderfully for you after you die in circumstances no one living can observe” get even Elon.

Which, incidentally, is not far short of what the actual Elon musk really did try to pull with his Full self drive promise to buyers of Tesla, but even he in the end had to produce a semi-working FSD that actually can be touched and felt, and above all tested, thus making him a far less braggadocios of liar then this alleged messiah of yours.

[R-Farmer]

what disqualifies what Jesus teaches in Luke 11 but validates what you believe about HIS religion? Meaning why is your belief about who and what God is more valid than what Jesus is recorded saying in the Bible?

Because Jesus offered no evidence able to withstand anything with even the faintest hint of modern scrutiny.   Not only is Jesus not my or any educated person’s equal in the weight that his alledged saying could possibly deserves, Jesus is literally nothing as far as the weight of his alledged pronouncements.   There is nothing that he alledgedly said that is of evidentiary value, and there is nothing of evidentiary value to show he actually said any of the nothing he putatively said


He is nothing, squared, as support or guide or evidence during serious exploration of reality.

evidence of what, Hell? that is like asking for evidence of AI without any sort of devise to access it. What kind of scientific evidence are you looking for?

[Anomalocaris]

Evidence of anything, at all, that might suggest he is not just a no good lying nobody who happen to change upon more than his share of gullible fools like you?

[Ahriman]

Because Jesus offered no evidence able to withstand anything with even the faintest hint of modern scrutiny.   Not only is Jesus not my or any educated person’s equal in the weight that his alledged saying could possibly deserves, Jesus is literally nothing as far as the weight of his alledged pronouncements.   There is nothing that he alledgedly said that is of evidentiary value, and there is nothing of evidentiary value to show he actually said any of the nothing he putatively said


He is nothing, squared, as support or guide or evidence during serious exploration of reality.

evidence of what, Hell?

Hell can't be worse than this current world so I'm not concerned. If I end up there I end up there.

[R-Farmer]

So the author and inspiration of a given religion is not 'expert' enough to comment on his own religion?
Wouldn't that be like Not taking the word of Elon Musk on a raptor engine design of his own making?

What a silly question.  Would a liar be expert enough to make his lies true?


also, what amazingly total ignorance of the meaning of “reality” you betray.    Reality is not what “expert’ says.  It is what they can show under scrupulous and never ending examination.    Also elon didn’t design or make the raptor engine.  He caused it to be made.   And neither his word, nor the words of his engineers who actually designed and made the engine and who can be specifically identified and named, means anything at all if the principles they espouse for the engine is not otherwise proven and verifiable,  or if the engine itself could not be presented for examination and demonstrated to work under testing of scrupulous rigor and actual use.

I didn't say he created it by his self. I communicated that MusK contributed to the raptor engine design. Like how Jesus didn't invent christianity but as it's founder contributed a great deal to what would become the church, and that in this situation it would be like not taking Elon's word for a raptor engine design (component design) of his own making.

The following is a video I had in mind where it shows Musk discussing engine design and is triggered by the interviewer to make a design change while explaining some of the other changes and functionality of the rocket itself they have made from earlier versions.

https://interestingengineering.com/video...ngine-work

What's significant is Elon provided no scientific evidence to anyone before deciding to make this change. He literally decides this is what will happen and the next time they interview He confirms the changes made.

At some point the whole "evidence" argument has to boil down to someone in authority to dictate what is the proper interpretation of said evidence is, and has the power and authority to set policy. Elon Musk is one such person at space x. Jesus fills the same role for christianity.

So now that I have answered your question answer mine. What makes your interpretation of who and what is with in the frame work of Christianity more valid that Jesus' own direct assessment? 

Why is your version of God as framed out by christianity in your mind more accurate than Jesus'?

[R-Farmer]

Evidence of anything, at all,  that might suggest he is not just a no good lying nobody who happen to change upon more than his share of gullible fools like you?

The evidence for that is all around you. It seems your dispute is not with the evidence but the interpretation.

For if God is the author and creator of all things.. all things are 'evidence' of God. The issue you have is that you want to attribute all of creation to a different process. So again there is no lack of evidence. the dispute comes with your interpretation of said evidence. This would lead one to conclude that if you have reassigned the interpretation of all of creation to another cause other than our creator then whatever other evidence is provided you will simply assimilate to some other cause.

Which begs the question and why I asked; what evidence are you looking for specifically? because if you don't know, then nothing Can convince you otherwise.

There were men in Jesus' time who literally saw Jesus raise people from the dead make the lame walk the deaf hear people with leprosy be completely healed (they can't do that even today.) the blind see, and yet this for them was still not enough 'proof.' What makes you think you are any different if you do not have some minimum requirement of proof that can be demonstrated??