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Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 3:22 pm
Genesis claimed there was a flood yet most scientists dispute this. Do you think there really was a flood and how much of the Bible do you find historical? It's not literally all made up is it?
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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 3:26 pm (This post was last modified: June 26, 2023 at 3:48 pm by arewethereyet.)
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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 3:43 pm (This post was last modified: June 26, 2023 at 3:44 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(June 26, 2023 at 3:22 pm)jodi Wrote: Genesis claimed there was a flood yet most scientists dispute this. Do you think there really was a flood and how much of the Bible do you find historical? It's not literally all made up is it?

There are little points of history that are present, but no, there's no evidence of a worldwide flood and precious little about anything in the Bible that is even in the same zip-code as accurate.

ETA: Well, that was quick.

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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 3:49 pm
(June 26, 2023 at 3:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(June 26, 2023 at 3:22 pm)jodi Wrote: Genesis claimed there was a flood yet most scientists dispute this. Do you think there really was a flood and how much of the Bible do you find historical? It's not literally all made up is it?

There are little points of history that are present, but no, there's no evidence of a worldwide flood and precious little about anything in the Bible that is even in the same zip-code as accurate.

ETA: Well, that was quick.

This is one of our regulars.  He takes a break and then shows up and creates a bunch of names and then gets banned over and over.  It's gotten to where my Spidey senses start tingling when he's lurking around.
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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 4:13 pm (This post was last modified: June 26, 2023 at 4:15 pm by Fake Messiah.)
There was no worldwide flood and one of many pieces of evidence for the lack of deluge is the neatness of the geologic column. If there was a world flood then there would be no geologic column but a messy jumble: dinosaurs, humans, basilosauruses, dimetrodons - all mashed together.

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This brings me to another point: all the species of animals that ever existed could not have lived together at the same time on this planet, let alone fit on one wooden boat.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 4:33 pm
Shame, really. The issue of what old magic book made up and what it got right..and in what context, is actually pretty wild.
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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 5:21 pm
I'd like to hear from Buffi and Mr. French.
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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 5:29 pm
So, who died in the Great Floyd? Well, everybody. But that was because they didn't worship the right god. Polynesians didn't worship Yahweh. Aboriginals didn't worship Yahweh. Olmecs didn't worship Yahweh. Inuit didn't worship Yahweh. Kalahari Bushmen didn't worship Yahweh. So it was just the evil non-believers who had never heard of Yahweh who died.
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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 6:29 pm
Genesis.

Isn't that what resurrected Mr. Spock?

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RE: Genesis
June 26, 2023 at 6:36 pm
(June 26, 2023 at 6:29 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Genesis.

Isn't that what resurrected Mr. Spock?
No, it's was Kirk's GF that resurrected him. She used Genesis.
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