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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm
(July 18, 2023 at 1:07 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:01 pm)Lek Wrote: I don't try to force my morality on anyone. I believe in God and that affects my sense of morality. I will argue for it though. Also, same as you, I will push back if someone tries to force me to accept their morality. I believe, though, if we can't agree on any ultimate truth we're in trouble as a society unless we can compromise for the benefit of society. That involves loving our enemies.
I am completely open to you changing your stance a bit from being hateful. If there's one thing we don't need more of in this world it's hatefulness.
The 'loving your enemies' thing makes me wonder...do you think that trans people are your enemy? Do you think that LGBT+ people of any sort (and I do not know all the letters - they keep changing) are your enemy? Do you think immigrants are your enemy?
You language is a bit confusing.
Can you simply accept that there are good people who may not live the life you do, and that's okay?
It's allegory.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 1:58 pm
(July 18, 2023 at 1:12 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:01 pm)Lek Wrote: I don't try to force my morality on anyone. I believe in God and that affects my sense of morality. I will argue for it though. Also, same as you, I will push back if someone tries to force me to accept their morality. I believe, though, if we can't agree on any ultimate truth we're in trouble as a society unless we can compromise for the benefit of society. That involves loving our enemies.
God says to kill gays.
Why aren’t you doing what your gang leader commands you you do?
Are you more moral than the monster you worship?
He doesn't tell us to kill gays. I know the old testament law. You don't need to refresh me.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:16 pm
(July 18, 2023 at 1:58 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:12 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: God says to kill gays.
Why aren’t you doing what your gang leader commands you you do?
Are you more moral than the monster you worship?
He doesn't tell us to kill gays. I know the old testament law. You don't need to refresh me.
What is your reading of Leviticus 20:13 then?
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:21 pm
(July 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:07 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I am completely open to you changing your stance a bit from being hateful. If there's one thing we don't need more of in this world it's hatefulness.
The 'loving your enemies' thing makes me wonder...do you think that trans people are your enemy? Do you think that LGBT+ people of any sort (and I do not know all the letters - they keep changing) are your enemy? Do you think immigrants are your enemy?
Your language is a bit confusing.
Can you simply accept that there are good people who may not live the life you do, and that's okay?
It's allegory. Okay, I'm done.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:40 pm
Quote:He doesn't tell us to kill gays. I know the old testament law. You don't need to refresh me.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:41 pm
Quote:It's allegory.
It's bullshit 
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:48 pm
LOL
Can we get a "rule of thumb" ?
When exactly is it *allegory* and when was it not *allegory* ?
How do you know the difference.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:50 pm
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(July 18, 2023 at 1:42 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:14 pm)emjay Wrote: Tbh I haven't really been following, except inasmuch as seeing you filling the gap left by Huggy, starting thread after thread about gay and gender issues. If you're not gay or transgender, why not just let people be? You think it's immoral, others don't, so why not just leave it to God to judge?
Well, some of us are would be happy to live and let live but we are not the ones cheating high school girls out of sport scholarships and sterilizing minors. Now that, is how you speak your truth. I gotta tell you, it's been a busy day for me - I've already stolen four womens scholarships and sterilized at least twice as many minors - and it's not even 3 yet.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:53 pm
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(July 18, 2023 at 2:48 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: LOL
Can we get a "rule of thumb" ?
When exactly is it *allegory* and when was it not *allegory* ?
How do you know the difference.
It depends on the audience. It's almost like you can pick and choose.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 2:54 pm
(July 18, 2023 at 1:42 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:14 pm)emjay Wrote: Tbh I haven't really been following, except inasmuch as seeing you filling the gap left by Huggy, starting thread after thread about gay and gender issues. If you're not gay or transgender, why not just let people be? You think it's immoral, others don't, so why not just leave it to God to judge?
Well, some of us are would be happy to live and let live but we are not the ones cheating high school girls out of sport scholarships and sterilizing minors.
That isn't happening.
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