Stupid things religious people say

[Mister Agenda]

The notion that not all acts with a similar outcome are sinful and that not all sins are equally grave is one of the (very) few reprehensible things about the Catholic church.

Boru

Did you mean '(very) few nonreprehensible' things?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The notion that not all acts with a similar outcome are sinful and that not all sins are equally grave is one of the (very) few reprehensible things about the Catholic church.

Boru

Did you mean '(very) few nonreprehensible' things?

Thanks muchly. I did the edit.

Boru

[Ravenshire]

"God is an axiom."

On Discord I had a debate with a Christian who said that God is an axiom and can be presupposed rationally. I pointed out that it's special pleading to pick the Christian God as an axiom rather than Hinduism as an axiom, for instance, or a thousand other arbitrary positions.

But he insisted that it's rational to start with the Christian God as an axiom.

He also said that you start with a theory and develop a hypothesis afterwards. Which I said I was pretty sure he got backwards but he insisted that it was the right way around and it made sense to start with God and if you can't disprove him then he's an acceptable "theory". I also pointed out that he had the burden of proof reversed by asking me to disprove God. He insisted that he had the burden of proof the right way around.

Pretty sure this counts as stupid things religious people say.

(my bold)

Yes! Yes, it does!

[Fake Messiah]

Don't you just love it when Christians tell people that believing in (non-Christian) god is bad? And notice how they don't use logic to debunk non-Christian gods because they can't since you could use the same arguments to debunk their god. Instead, Christians use dogma and taboo to "debunk" other gods.

Shamans, Sorcerers, and Spirits: How Christians in Asia Grapple with the Supernatural

Belief in the supernatural is widespread in the region: A majority of adults in Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Vietnam say they believe in a god or unseen beings, according to Pew Research Center. Having an otherworldly experience is commonplace as well. “We often experience evil spirits before we experience the Holy Spirit,” said author Justin Tan in a CT piece on the Hungry Ghost Festival.

In South Korea, shamanism is growing in popularity as younger shamans work through YouTube and other social media platforms to assuage citizens’ anxiety for the future. In Japan and Thailand, animistic beliefs form the bedrock of shamanistic rituals. In Indonesia, people may regard pastors as “spiritual shamans” who wield special powers. And in the Philippines, Taiwan, and Vietnam, folk religion, folk Catholicism, and Daoism (Taoism) have helped shamanism to thrive because many of their rituals encourage people to appease a spirit or venerate a deity.

While shamanism has helped to develop a greater awareness of the spirit world across many parts of Asia, engaging in shamanistic rituals or practices invites syncretism, opens up room for evil spirits to influence a person’s life, and goes against God’s injunctions on spiritism and sorcery, say these Christian leaders. Their responses can be found in the drop-down list above or linked below:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/1...m-spirits/

[Modern Atheism]

I have seen an increasing number of christians trying to debunk Islam lately. Whats funny is how they don't seem to realize the same argments could be used against christianity. I once saw a debate where craig said that the Quran was "full of contradictions".

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I have seen an increasing number of christians trying to debunk Islam lately. Whats funny is how they don't seem to realize the same argments could be used against christianity. I once saw a debate where craig said that the Quran was "full of contradictions".

And, just like Christians and their Bible, Muslims will insist (usually at the top of their voice) that there are NO contradictions in the Quran, all evidence to the contrary.

Boru

[Modern Atheism]

And, just like Christians and their Bible, Muslims will insist (usually at the top of their voice) that there are NO contradictions in the Quran, all evidence to the contrary.

Boru

Even if there weren't contradictions in the quran, it would not prove anything, since the Quran had one single author, unlike the bible which is many books collected into one. It is not that hard not contradict yourself when you are the one single author.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And, just like Christians and their Bible, Muslims will insist (usually at the top of their voice) that there are NO contradictions in the Quran, all evidence to the contrary.

Boru

Even if there weren't contradictions in the quran, it would not prove anything, since the Quran had one single author, unlike the bible which is many books collected into one. It is not that hard not contradict yourself when you are the one single author.

The Quran was written some time after The Prophets oral pronouncements. The sayings were collected (largely) by Abu Bakr, who relied on bits and pieces that people scattered across the peninsula and the collation was performed by an indeterminate number of scribes. The result is thus largely dependent on human memory and the skills of the people writing down what other people recalled, however imperfectly.

In other words, the Quran also had multiple authors.

Boru

[Ravenshire]

And, just like Christians and their Bible, Muslims will insist (usually at the top of their voice) that there are NO contradictions in the Quran, all evidence to the contrary.

Boru

Even if there weren't contradictions in the quran, it would not prove anything, since the Quran had one single author, unlike the bible which is many books collected into one. It is not that hard not contradict yourself when you are the one single author.

Even given @BrianSoddingBoru4's explaination above, modern authors, even with all the tools available to them, manage to contradict themselves all the time. If modern authors working with far more effective tools can't avoid it, why would you think it easy for an ancient author working before reliable paper production?

[h4ym4n]

“god gave me a second chance” sung by Jamie Fox on Jamie Fox Opens Up

A second chance?

Isn’t he thanking god for not giving him entrance to paradise/heaven?