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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 11:25 am
(December 12, 2024 at 6:30 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: God the interesting condition of having supposedly created everything but is at the same time not responsible for anything bad. Of course freewill will be used or the devil to excuse all this which of course leads to the next question
Who create freewill ?
Who made the devil ?
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 11:54 am
(December 12, 2024 at 11:25 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: (December 12, 2024 at 6:30 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: God the interesting condition of having supposedly created everything but is at the same time not responsible for anything bad. Of course freewill will be used or the devil to excuse all this which of course leads to the next question
Who create freewill ?
Who made the devil ?
On a somewhat deeper level, why would God create an angel he knew would rebel against him?
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm
Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 1:41 pm
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(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man. Yeah, behind porn and cocaine right?
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 1:43 pm
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Quote:Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will
Yeah that doesn't answer the question
Quote: perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.
Doesn't answer the question
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 1:48 pm
(December 12, 2024 at 11:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (December 12, 2024 at 11:25 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Of course freewill will be used or the devil to excuse all this which of course leads to the next question
Who create freewill ?
Who made the devil ?
On a somewhat deeper level, why would God create an angel he knew would rebel against him?
Boru Yeah if it made any sense he simply wouldn't have made him or would have made it impossible for him to rebel but still allow for free will.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 1:51 pm
(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.
And again, we have the most lame attempt of preventing his god from being responsible for its own actions: free will
Because thats the best his almighty, all powerful and, most of all, omnibenevolent god could come up with: All this evil, all this death, all this suffering, all this pain, all of those.... for free will. As if not even an unimaginative idiot like TWM could come up with a better plan for creating the entirety of existence, if he really tried.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 1:57 pm
(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.
You know god loathes you?
It tells you this right in the front of the book you don’t read or understand.
I agree with your god
Genesis 6:6
New International Version
6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 2:02 pm
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(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.
Why is the devil necessary for humans to have free will? Since God is the creator and agent of evil, a devil seems superfluous.
Just curious - what are the other two gifts (I’m thinking Stilton cheese and a really cool pocket watch, but you probably have something else in mind)?
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 12, 2024 at 3:45 pm
(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: allow his creation to have free will Theists, they really are irony impaired, bless.
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