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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 2:46 pm
Musk was supposed to land Starship on the Moon last year, but instead of admitting that he lied and thus failed, he gives up on the Moon entirely and says he's only interested in Mars.
Quote:Elon Musk: “We’re going straight to Mars. The Moon is a distraction.”
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/01/el...straction/
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 2:59 pm
Not all exploration benefits society as a whole.
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm
More exploration of Mars sounds great. But I am not so sure about landing people on it. Isn't it a far harsher environment than Earth or the Moon, especially with regards to exposure to radiation?
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 3:21 pm
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(January 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm)Tonus Wrote: More exploration of Mars sounds great. But I am not so sure about landing people on it. Isn't it a far harsher environment than Earth or the Moon, especially with regards to exposure to radiation?
That’s what space suits are for. And I imagine the radiation exposure on Luna would be much harsher than on Mars due to the Martian atmosphere being much thicker, and Mars being much farther from the sun.
But I’m not an astrophysicist (I just play one on message boards), so I could be wrong.
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 3:32 pm
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9 months ago, 60 Minutes aired a segment about NASA's return to the Moon, and you can see that they relied on Musk's promise that his Spaceship would play a significant role, but over time they realized they had been duped by Musk and hired Bezos' Blue Origin to develop the lander, slowing the return to the moon.
https://youtu.be/oJ0Pn6x_xhQ?si=BrflzBwxGFQhgntK
And it is frightening to think that NASA could have been duped by Musk's unrealistic promises (I guess they also fell for thinking that he's real life Tony Stark). He promised that the Starship and boosters would be reusable as airplanes, able to land and fly again after a few checkups. That is why he was building that booster catcher: the plan was for them to fly to space, refuel the Spaceship, return, be refueled, fly to space again, and so on. As a result, the spaceship is refueled ten times during its journey to the Moon. Needless to say, this never worked.
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 6:08 pm
(January 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm)Tonus Wrote: More exploration of Mars sounds great. But I am not so sure about landing people on it. Isn't it a far harsher environment than Earth or the Moon, especially with regards to exposure to radiation? It's also a one-way trip for whoever volunteers for the mission. There isn't any technology in existence for a return trip back to earth. They'll either die during the trip there, or on mars. It's a harsh reality.
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 6:21 pm
Elmos got it solved. All he needs to find is a few hundred rockets full of women to inseminate.
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 7:36 pm
(January 4, 2025 at 6:08 pm)MR. Macabre 666 Wrote: (January 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm)Tonus Wrote: More exploration of Mars sounds great. But I am not so sure about landing people on it. Isn't it a far harsher environment than Earth or the Moon, especially with regards to exposure to radiation? It's also a one-way trip for whoever volunteers for the mission. There isn't any technology in existence for a return trip back to earth. They'll either die during the trip there, or on mars. It's a harsh reality.
It’s not inherently undoable. The dangers of getting to Mars, living on Mars, and getting back from Mars can be overcome with improvements in technology.
Going to Mars is not impossible. Silly, stupid, and pointless, sure. But not impossible.
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 7:41 pm
Communities living under water is the more beneficial approach.
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RE: Elon Musk
January 4, 2025 at 8:36 pm
That's Theils AO - no girls allowed, though.
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