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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 4:34 pm
(January 4, 2025 at 5:44 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 3, 2025 at 9:10 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
Trump Is Furious Flags Will Be at Half-Mast for Jimmy Carter During His Inauguration
President-elect Donald Trump's plans for a perfect inauguration are being foiled by former President Jimmy Carter, who died last week at the age of 100.
As is standard practice in memorializing dead former presidents, American flags displayed at federal buildings, grounds, and on naval vessels will be flown at half mast for a 30-day period of national mourning. While 30 days may seem like a long time, it's a decades-long tradition reserved for sitting and former presidents - one that Trump will theoretically be granted upon his passing. But for the president-elect, the notion that the death of a predecessor could interfere with the aesthetics of his return to power is unconscionable.
His levels of maturity and emotional stability are truly underwhelming.
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Despite the millions of votes cast, if 44 men of integrity could be found among the red state electors, Trump could be stopped. It's a shame that there aren't 44 men of integrity left in the Republican party's officials.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 4:41 pm
(January 4, 2025 at 4:34 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: (January 4, 2025 at 5:44 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: His levels of maturity and emotional stability are truly underwhelming.
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Despite the millions of votes cast, if 44 men of integrity could be found among the red state electors, Trump could be stopped. It's a shame that there aren't 44 men of integrity left in the Republican party's officials.
If those electors didn’t vote for Trump, they wouldn’t be ‘men of integrity’. Precisely the opposite, in fact.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 4:50 pm
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(January 4, 2025 at 4:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 4, 2025 at 4:34 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Despite the millions of votes cast, if 44 men of integrity could be found among the red state electors, Trump could be stopped. It's a shame that there aren't 44 men of integrity left in the Republican party's officials.
If those electors didn’t vote for Trump, they wouldn’t be ‘men of integrity’. Precisely the opposite, in fact.
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Considering one of the reasons for the electoral college was precisely to stop a demagogue like Trump from taking power, it would take men of integrity to do so.
Our founders put these things in place for a reason, despite them not being used to the intended purpose, or indeed misused.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 4:55 pm
(January 4, 2025 at 4:50 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: (January 4, 2025 at 4:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If those electors didn’t vote for Trump, they wouldn’t be ‘men of integrity’. Precisely the opposite, in fact.
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Considering one of the reasons for the electoral college was precisely to stop a demagogue like Trump from taking power, it would take men of integrity to do so.
Our founders put these things in place for a reason, despite them not being used to the intended purpose, or indeed misused.
Electors take a pledge to vote for their party’s candidate. Voting for a candidate from another party, or voting for a non-candidate from their party, or even abstaining from voting, breaks that pledge and makes them a faithless elector.
So much for ‘integrity’.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 5:00 pm
Not to mention that many states have laws against electors voting otherwise.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 5:21 pm
(January 4, 2025 at 4:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 4, 2025 at 4:50 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Considering one of the reasons for the electoral college was precisely to stop a demagogue like Trump from taking power, it would take men of integrity to do so.
Our founders put these things in place for a reason, despite them not being used to the intended purpose, or indeed misused.
Electors take a pledge to vote for their party’s candidate. Voting for a candidate from another party, or voting for a non-candidate from their party, or even abstaining from voting, breaks that pledge and makes them a faithless elector.
So much for ‘integrity’.
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(January 4, 2025 at 4:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 4, 2025 at 4:50 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Considering one of the reasons for the electoral college was precisely to stop a demagogue like Trump from taking power, it would take men of integrity to do so.
Our founders put these things in place for a reason, despite them not being used to the intended purpose, or indeed misused.
Electors take a pledge to vote for their party’s candidate. Voting for a candidate from another party, or voting for a non-candidate from their party, or even abstaining from voting, breaks that pledge and makes them a faithless elector.
So much for ‘integrity’.
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Acting to preserve democracy at the national level would be a greater act of integrity.
(January 4, 2025 at 5:00 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Not to mention that many states have laws against electors voting otherwise.
And few of those states have any method of enforcement for those laws.
Faithless ballots are cast nearly every election cycle, though they have never changed an election. To describe those who would defend democracy as men without integrity would be akin to claiming the founders of the country had no integrity since they committed treason to attain their goals.
Would that 44 men would put the good of the nation above the petty squabbling of politics.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 5:27 pm
The founding fathers couldn't have possibly accounted for the conservative idiocy we're stuck with today.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 4, 2025 at 5:46 pm
@ Ravenshire
Quote:Acting to preserve democracy at the national level would be a greater act of integrity.
The risk of democracy being destroyed is ever-present, and I’m not at all sure that illegal elections are the best way to preserve it.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 7, 2025 at 1:17 pm
Well, DUH...
'We need a plan': GOP gets 'early reality check' on Trump's erratic decision making
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RE: The Absurd GOP
January 7, 2025 at 1:33 pm
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Mango Mussolini is having a rager of a presser right now. Says US needs to take back the Panama Canal, take Greenland, take Canada, claims Hezbollah and the FBI were behind J6, all while sounding like your drunken uncle after two bottles. And accordion hands. and tariffs, tariffs everyone!
"Trump is threatening really significant use of tariffs and other economic measures against other governments. He says he would “tariff Denmark at a very high level” if it does not give Greenland to the United States. Elsewhere, he said he would use “economic force” to join Canada and the United States together."
"Trump is asked why he would criticize Jimmy Carter’s Panama Canal deal on the day the former president will lie in state at the U.S. Capitol in Washington. Trump says he mentioned it because he was asked about Panama by reporters. Trump actually brought up Panama himself in his opening remarks."
source: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/07/us/trump-news
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