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April 22, 2025 at 9:59 am
(April 22, 2025 at 9:57 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: True, but only if you hide him in a cave first Forgot that, also thoughts and prayers etc etc...
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April 22, 2025 at 12:42 pm
Jennifer Lopez Saudi Arabia Grand Prix concert near Mecca sparks outrage
Pop icon Jennifer Lopez lit up the stage in Jeddah during the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix weekend, her first performance at a Formula 1 event in over a decade and just 80 kilometres from Islam’s holiest site, Mecca.
The show, part of Saudi Arabia's broader Vision 2030 push to diversify its entertainment and cultural offerings, quickly triggered sharp debate across the region.
Lopez, 55, arrived at the final F1 practice on Saturday wearing a striking pink zip-front catsuit, high ponytail, and stilettos, a Barbie-style outfit that drew as much attention as her high-energy set later that evening.
But the bold performance quickly sparked criticism on social media, with many users calling Lopez's performance so close to Mecca "shameful" and "a direct insult to Islam".
Religious figures and social commentators criticised the move, arguing that such entertainment events are inappropriate so near to the sacred city and the Kaaba, revered by over a billion Muslims worldwide.
"Hosting a pop concert with dance and revealing attire so close to Mecca is deeply disrespectful," one user wrote on X. "Saudi Arabia must remember it holds the custodianship of Islam’s holiest sites."
https://www.newarab.com/news/jennifer-lo...ks-outrage
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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April 22, 2025 at 1:13 pm
If they don't like it why don't they stay at home?
No one made them watch the show
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April 23, 2025 at 7:48 am
"Miracle Tree" in Concepcion, Texas draws hundreds seeking healing and hope
An olive tree native to Jerusalem grew into a tree from a branch in the ground fertilized with prayer. Twenty-two years later, claims of the miraculous are still rooted near "The Miracle Tree" in Concepcion, Texas.
The property is an acre off FM Road 1329 in Duval County's Concepcion. But its rural location has not stopped miracle seekers from across the globe from coming to the South Texas property, desperate for a miracle.
"I've got to see so many and witness so many healings through the years that I've been here," Garcia Cantu said.
Garcia Cantu said her mother was a Bible-reading Christian who wanted God to give her a miracle source for his people. She recalled her mother going to a nursery in Edinburg that eventually got Palacios Garcia an olive branch from Jerusalem — no roots, she said. Her mother planted it and prayed.
A person who believes in the power of prayer, Salinas said she kept passing the Miracle Tree going to and from work, but did not stop until March. After two visits, she said 13 years of migraines and medication for them are gone.
She continues to come to the property for prayer to tackle her hypertension and prediabetes.
Garcia Cantu enlists the help of "prayer warriors" who carry out healing services connected to the tree: Prophet Jose Flores, Jose Alaniz, and Leticia Lemos.
Even with the help of the warriors, Garcia Cantu encourages visitors to make appointments because they are at the tree on the weekends.
Another reason people come to the tree is to hear the sound that resonates from its wood. For years, miracle-seekers have been able to place an ear to the tree to listen to the sound of rushing water — some claim to hear a whisper that sounds like a heartbeat on a particular side of the tree.
"I hear a little like, kss, kss," Rodriguez said.
It is the same tree where a woman who had cancer put her feet on the tree as warriors prayed. The woman was healed, they said. A picture shows her footprint left on the tree from the intense session.
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/south...acle-tree/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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April 25, 2025 at 3:36 am
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Quote:Fury at 'disrespectful' mourners taking selfies with the Pope's corpse as the faithful queue for eight hours to pay respects
Mourners who flocked to the Pope's lying-in-state on Wednesday have blasted ghoulish social media users for snapping selfies next to his open casket.
On Instagram, one image saw a woman smiling at the camera as she displayed the Pope clutching his rosary around 10ft behind her. His body, dressed in his white mitre and red Papal robe symbolising love and the blood of Christ, can clearly be seen in the coffin which lies on a raised platform.
Officials released photos of Francis in his velvet-lined coffin and did not ban public pictures, but guards reportedly stopped some morbid mourners using phone cameras.
Janine Venables, 53, from Pontypridd, south Wales told MailOnline: 'What did surprise me is the fact that earlier we were told no photos in the Sistine Chapel and here people were getting their phone out and doing selfies with the coffin.
A Vatican source said: 'It would be good if people could try and remember where they are and have a little respect but there's little else that can be done.'
One faithful said the atmosphere was ruined by people 'ignoring warnings' and taking photos instead of paying proper respects.
The devoted faithful explained that she and her husband kept their phones in their pockets throughout the experience, adding that it was 'sad to see such disrespectful behaviour'.
A sea of screens was seen floating around the Pope's body, and some even extended selfie sticks in a bid to capture the best shot.
Nuns were also photographed gathering around the former head of the Catholic church with their phones in hand.
The incessant selfie-taking meant that for many, there was no silent reflection for faithfuls who had only just a fleeting moment with the Pope's open coffin - a ritual steeped in hundreds of years of history and tradition.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ntiff.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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April 25, 2025 at 4:10 am
^This isn't one of the stupid things religious people say. Taking selfies with ANY corpse is disrespectful.
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April 26, 2025 at 12:07 am
Talking about being disrespectful: Another cardinal lashes against gays, immigrants and the environment as that is his Christian right
Quote:Cardinal Müller warns Church risks split if ‘orthodox’ pope not chosen
Müller, 77, has long been a leading light among traditional Catholics who often opposed the reformist approach of Pope Francis, and he is one of a handful of “conservative thinkers” in the Catholic Church based in Rome, alongside US Cardinal Raymond Burke.
“I am praying that the Holy Spirit will illuminate the cardinals, because a heretic pope who changes every day depending on what the mass media is saying would be catastrophic.”
The next pope, Müller argues, should not “look for the applause of the secular world that sees the Church as a humanitarian organisation doing social work”.
Müller listed his differences with Francis, starting with the late pope’s 2023 decision to allow the blessing of same-sex couples. Pope Francis said at the time that “we cannot be judges who only deny, push back, exclude”, but the move sparked enormous controversy, with bishops in Africa and Asia refusing to permit the blessings.
The list of Müller’s grievances with Francis’s papacy also extends to the late pontiff’s focus on migrants and the environment.
https://thecatholicherald.com/cardinal-m...ot-chosen/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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April 27, 2025 at 9:52 am
Back to Christian sexual phobias.
Quote:A Fascinating new book shows just how intertwined sex and the church have been for 2,000 years
Perhaps the most enduring controversy in the first 12 centuries of the faith was over the merits of celibacy. For several of those centuries, most Christian priests were married, as was the custom of many officials in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean. Polygyny—or multiple wives living with a single husband—was also common in wealthier families. Despite this background, the conviction spread among Christians that virginity made a person closer to God, inspired in large part by reverence for the Virgin Mary and by Jesus’ own apparent virginity. Particularly devout laypeople chose to live in celibate, ascetic communities, the forebearers of monasteries and convents.
It wasn’t until the Second Lateran Council in 1139 that celibacy became mandatory for Catholic priests.
It was just as important to set the clergy apart from the laity, exalting them as authorities whose well-guarded powers and superior holiness were made manifest in their sexual purity. As one defender of this rule put it, “Who is so stupid as not to be able to consider lucidly that the life of those I call upon to bless my house ought to be different and more elevated than mine?” Some particularly pious laypeople sought to emulate the spiritual state of the priesthood by engaging in chaste marriages or refusing marriage entirely—which was the easiest way for an early Christian woman to attain sainthood, provided she was martyred in some ghastly way for her recalcitrance.
Laypeople were encouraged by church authorities to marry and procreate, but many were still troubled by the notion that even married sex was sinful. St. Jerome, a fourth-century theologian who lived for a few years as a hermit in the Syrian desert before going on to minister to a lot of prominent and affluent Roman women, was “no friend to sexual activity of any sort,” and in particular admonished his widowed patronesses not to remarry. Marriage was like “unwholesome food,” Jerome told them, and “now that you have relieved your heaving stomach of its bile, why should you return to it again … like a dog to its vomit?”
//Then come the Protestants\\
Rejection of the clerical celibacy mandate was one of the cornerstones of the Reformation, along with repudiation of the cult surrounding the Virgin Mary, which in some corners had gone so far as to assert that she, as well as Jesus, was immaculately conceived. (Marian devotees had to deliberately ignore biblical references to Jesus’ siblings, which suggested that even Mary herself didn’t stay a virgin for long.)
Protestantism has a tendency to splinter into sects over bitter doctrinal disputes, and was far from immune to extremism in its biblical fidelity. One fanatical leader of the 16th century, John of Leyden, barricaded himself and his followers in the German city of Munster, where they instituted compulsory polygyny (the compelled were girls as young as 11) after the model of the Old Testament patriarchs, outlawed money, and banned private property. When a Catholic army finally retook the city, John and two other sect leaders were tortured to death and their bodies displayed in iron cages that still hang from the exterior of the church in the town center.
There was also during this period [18th cent.] what MacCulloch describes as a “masturbation panic,” which he regards as “yet another symptom of the age of individual choice, for few pursuits are more shaped by individual decision than masturbation.” Immanuel Kant (who probably died a virgin) went so far as to argue that “self-abuse” was worse than suicide. At the same time, a chain of gentlemen’s clubs in Scotland provided members with the opportunity to gather together for “enthusiastic and onanistic contemplation of females hired for the spectacle,” a recreation MacCulloch describes as “programmatically heterosexual though inescapably homosocial.”
This notion reframes the American evangelical obsession with sexual and gender transgression as a battle for the meaning of self-determination in a country obsessed with individualism. That “choice” became the rallying cry of the American abortion rights movement—although MacCulloch, in an atypical lapse, doesn’t mention it—can be no coincidence. As a Briton, this issue may not feel immediate to him, but even he can see that sex “has become the most salient issue for identity in the Republican Party.”
https://slate.com/culture/2025/04/lower-...anity.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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April 27, 2025 at 4:39 pm
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It is nice that they are kind to cows, but the reasons are pretty stupid. Also, isn't milking cows cruel to cows - just remember that Joaquin Phoenix speech at the Oscars.
Quote:On a dairy farm run on Hindu principles, cow 'friends' yield milk and higher consciousness
On a quiet Sunday on rural Pennsylvania farmland, Dhruva and his favorite cow, Tabby, meet at dawn. While one recites a mantra to Lord Krishna using prayer beads, the other listens to religious chants as she’s milked. But they’re joined together at breakfast — both enjoying a sattvic, or spiritually pure vegetarian meal of organic produce sanctified by God before consumption.
“It’s very clear from the Vedas that humanity as a whole is suffering today as a result of the slaughter of cows,” he said, referring to sacred Hindu texts.
Dhruva, 52, the farm’s president, and his wife, who goes by PJ, gave up successful careers in South Africa (“I was promoted,” said Dhruva, who worked as an engineer) to move to Port Royal in 2009. Devoting their lives to Krishna, the blue-skinned deity and cowherd whom ISKON members consider the Supreme Lord, they adopted a dietary regimen free of meat, onions, garlic, caffeine or any other spiritually disruptive ingredients.
They moved onto the farm founded in 1974 by Swami Prabhupada, ISKCON’s founder, who had named the land Gita Nagari, or “land of the Bhagavad Gita,” Hinduism’s holiest book, so Hare Krishnas, as ISKON followers are known, could live out their faith without worldly distractions.
Ashok Dudakia, one of the swami’s original 12 disciples, describes the guru as having “tears in his eyes” when he arrived in the U.S. in the late 1960s and saw how Americans treated their cows.
“He said, ‘how can I educate these people on nonviolence?'” said Dudakia. “Actually it’s not nonviolence, it’s just etiquette. We are the supreme species, God has given us that, and we should be taking care of animals, not mistreating them.”
Ashok Dudakia’s daughter, Kunti Salazar, a frequent visitor from her Washington-area home, is raising her two young daughters in the ISKCON tradition. She hopes the love she has cultivated in them for the farm’s cows (and its smell) will be passed on to the next generation.
“Whenever you see Krishna as a cowherd boy with cows, they’re always in an open pasture, free roaming,” she said. “Coupling Krishna’s pastimes with the actual experience of being on a farm with cows made it real for me and made me fully understand why Krishna was so passionate. They have such sweet energy, and they’re so giving of themselves. I just think they’re really misunderstood in American culture — like just cattle, or a product.”
https://religionnews.com/2025/04/25/on-a...an-cattle/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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April 28, 2025 at 6:41 am
My sister-in-law had mobility problems before she died. The minister at her funeral told the attendees that "She is now dancing with Jesus."
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