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[Pat Mustard]

The best way to stop Iran getting nukes would be to strip Israel of theirs.

Not so. Iran is just as worried about the Saudis, despite their recent rapprochement, and there's both religious and ethnic tensions to fuel that rivalry. Not only that, how would you suggest "stripping" Israel peacefully? They will not surrender them short of defeat in war.

Who said anything about peacfully?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Not so. Iran is just as worried about the Saudis, despite their recent rapprochement, and there's both religious and ethnic tensions to fuel that rivalry. Not only that, how would you suggest "stripping" Israel peacefully? They will not surrender them short of defeat in war.

Who said anything about peacfully?

Okay, so using war. How are you going to strip Israel of nukes without them using those nukes on you?

This isn't relativity, Einstein. Think about it for oh, three or four seconds, the answer should come to you.

[The Grand Nudger]

There aren't many examples of a country that voluntarily surrenders nuclear weapons. I mean, ukraine...but who would ukraine themselves at this point?

[Pat Mustard]

Who said anything about peacfully?

Okay, so using war. How are you going to strip Israel of nukes without them using those nukes on you?

This isn't relativity, Einstein. Think about it for oh, three or four seconds, the answer should come to you.

Given that I consider it to be the US's solution to the problem, how are Israel going to nuke the US, they don't have the long range missiles.

[Mr Greene]

Welcome to catch 22...
It was pretty clear what the US was about to do last night when the B2s turned their transponders off.
At least Hesgeth didn't include his friends and family in the briefing this time that I'm aware of.
Starmer again proves he isn't fit for purpose.
The White House is giving a constant stream of obvious false statements.
Which leaves us with the question of how big will the Iranian counterstrike against the US be?

[Fireball]

Just take out one guy...

[Thumpalumpacus]

Okay, so using war. How are you going to strip Israel of nukes without them using those nukes on you?

This isn't relativity, Einstein. Think about it for oh, three or four seconds, the answer should come to you.

Given that I consider it to be the US's solution to the problem, how are Israel going to nuke the US, they don't have the long range missiles.

Hey, could we perhaps nail down these goalposts? They're dancing around an awful lot.

But if they cannot hit us here in America, why should we give a shit? Y'all in Europe, at least in part, are the ones that can be hit by missiles. Shouldn't you have a vested interest in denuclearizing Israel, and peacefully?

Finally, to answer your question, missiles aren't the only delivery system. Put a few into shipping containers fused with GPS to go off once in port. Not only will you destroy major ports, you will also freeze trade as everyone frantically searches every.single.container.

[Mr Greene]

Back in the here and now; When Iran does hit the US how long in nano seconds is going to take Trump to invoke Article 5. Does the US strike give us a 'You made your own bed' clause?  And even if it did would Starmer just do a Blair and go along with it...

[Fake Messiah]

Twenty killed in suicide bombing at Damascus church

At least 20 people were killed and dozens injured when a suicide bomber blew himself up at the Mar Elias Church in the Dweila neighborhood of Syria's capital Damascus on Sunday, health authorities and security sources said.

Syria's interior ministry said the suicide bomber was a member of Islamic State. He entered the church, opened fire and then detonated his explosive vest, a ministry statement added.

A security source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said two men were involved in the attack, including the one who blew himself up.

Islamic State has been behind several attempted attacks on churches in Syria since Assad's fall, but this was the first to succeed, another security source told Reuters.

Syria's state news agency cited the health ministry as saying that 52 people were also injured in the blast.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...025-06-22/

[Angrboda]

“This is an incomplete strike,” Lewis said. “If this is all there is, here’s what left: the entire stockpile of 60% uranium, which was stored at Isfahan in tunnels that are untouched.”

A satellite image taken by Airbus shows significant damage to the Isfahan site and signs that the underground portion of the facility was hit, according to the Institute for Science and International Security, which analyzed the image. But there are layers of tunnels at the facility, so it’s unclear how far the damage goes.

When reached for comment, the office of Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth told CNN, “We do not have anything additional to share at this time.”

Vice President JD Vance told ABC News’ “This Week” on Sunday that the administration plans to “work in the coming weeks to ensure that we do something with that fuel and that’s one of the things we’re going to have conversations with the Iranians about.”

“What we know is they no longer have the capacity to turn that stockpile of highly enriched uranium to weapons-grade uranium, and that was really the goal here,” Vance added.
“Enriching uranium up to the point of a nuclear weapon — that was what the president put a stop to last night.”

But multiple sources familiar with the latest US intelligence on both sites and the Trump administration’s objectives in launching the strikes told CNN that Isfahan’s underground facilities — which likely remain intact — must be addressed to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

And on Thursday, the UN nuclear watchdog said that Iran was building a new nuclear enrichment plant at Isfahan that Tehran has said it will soon bring online.

The Iranians “have the material, they still have the capacity to make centrifuges, and they still have at least one giant underground centrifuge facility where they can install their centrifuges,” Lewis added. “So, it’s just not done.”

It remains unclear why US military planners decided against using bunker busters — officially known as Massive Ordinance Penetrators, or MOP, on Isfahan. The bombs are designed to penetrate deep underground, and sources say the tunnels under Isfahan are even deeper than those at the other two locations.

But even before the strikes were carried out, some US officials had raised pointed doubts about whether the MOPs was even capable of destroying the deeper tunnels.

While there were some questions about whether US bunker busters were capable of destroying the underground portions of Fordow — which had been the focus of the administration’s planning for the operation — multiple sources familiar with the discussions told CNN the likelihood of successfully doing the same at Isfahan was an even bigger question.

Early assessments raise questions over whether US destroyed bulk of enriched Iranian nuclear material