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Stupid things religious people say
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Jewish exorcism is real

On some occasions souls of dead people will possess a human body so that they can communicate their problem and hopefully have it resolved.

Those souls will require an exorcism. These troubled souls are trapped between two worlds. They're no longer living, but they can't move on to the spiritual realm.
They're deeply tormented and they need to be healed.

The Exorcist must know the name of the being that's possessing its victim in order to have power over it.

The Exorcist communicates with the soul to try to convince it to surrender its name.

The exorcist will say, "I am going to say petitionary prayers for your soul. And I take it upon my authority to say that if you cooperate with me in this matter and you agree to leave the victim without causing her any further harm, I will personally guarantee that you will be admitted into Gehinnom."

And the exorcist wasn't only dealing with the soul doing the possessing, it was trying to expel something else, something much more sinister.
There is a kind of satanic demon that is like the prison guard that is attending all the time to that lost, tormented soul.
The exorcist would recite special prayers to banish the satanic overseers so that they could reach the soul and help the soul be freed.




teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Will those Secular Overlord Libtards shut up already about the women getting ordained in the Catholic Church? We have a real morality from the Bible which says that women are not part of divine plan.

And what about Muslims? They don't have women priests.

Quote:The Catholic Church cannot ordain women: the Church is divine – and divinity doesn’t ‘adapt’

There are few things more unfashionable in the Year of our Secular Overlords 2025 than to suggest that the Catholic Church might be right. And no issue seems to incense the progressive class more than that of female ordination.

The argument for women priests is advanced as though it were an inevitability: the obvious next step on the escalator of progress. It is the 21st century, after all. If women can be judges, generals and airline pilots, why not clergymen, too?

Christ was male, and He chose men as His apostles. The Church has always understood that this choice was not accidental but deliberate, and that it established the form of the priesthood itself.

Priests stand in persona Christi – in the person of Christ Himself. That is not a metaphor. The priest does not merely recount Christ’s life, he represents Him, and the Church has no power to alter what Christ instituted.

That basic sex-based fact cannot be unmade by synod or popular demand.

The modern demand for women priests often comes cloaked in the language of “equality”, yet it imports into the Church a secular vision of dignity.

Progressives who scold the Catholic Church for its “patriarchy” do not, for some reason, march on mosques with placards demanding female imams.

No, the social justice warriors know perfectly well which doors to graffiti and which to leave well alone. The Vatican, after all, is unlikely to respond with the same careless condemnation or righteous outrage as other religions might.

Instead, they confine themselves to lecturing Christians – and the Church of England, anxious to demonstrate its modernity, has dutifully complied. Women priests, women bishops, same-sex marriage, endless “inclusivity” measures: the whole catalogue has been enacted.

And what has been the result? Empty pews, collapsing vocations and dioceses selling off their vicarages to pay the bills. In fact, the same Islamic institutions that liberals wouldn’t dare accuse of sexism are buying up our Anglican churches and denying their women basic liberties within their once-hallowed walls.

https://thecatholicherald.com/article/no...esnt-adapt
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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2-year-old girl chosen in Nepal as new living goddess worshipped by both Hindus and Buddhists

[Image: Kumi.avif]

Kathmandu, Nepal —A two-year-old girl chosen as Nepal’s new living goddess was carried by family members from their home in a Kathmandu alley to a temple palace Tuesday during the country’s longest and most significant Hindu festival.

Aryatara Shakya, at 2 years and 8 months, was chosen as the new Kumari or “virgin goddess,” replacing the incumbent who is considered by tradition to become a mere mortal upon reaching puberty.

Kumaris are chosen from the Shakya clans of the Newar community, indigenous to the Kathmandu valley, and revered by both Hindus and Buddhists in the predominantly Hindu nation.

The girls are selected between the ages of 2 and 4 and are required to have unblemished skin, hair, eyes and teeth. They should not be afraid of the dark.

Tuesday marked the eighth day of Dashain, a 15-day celebration of the victory of good over evil. Offices and schools were closed as people celebrated with their families.

Family, friends and devotees paraded the new Kumari through the streets of Kathmandu before entering the temple palace which will be her home for several years.

Devotees lined up to touch the girls’ feet with their foreheads, the highest sign of respect among Hindus in the Himalayan nation, and offered her flowers and money. The new Kumari will bless devotees including the president on Thursday.

“My wife during pregnancy dreamed that she was a goddess and we knew she was going to be someone very special,” said her father Ananta Shakya.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/30/asia/...s-intl-hnk
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Stay away from Jack-O-Lanterns because Jack the blacksmith made a pact with the devil and now he is roaming around with this carved out pumpkin wrecking havoc and horror on the lives of people.

Quote:Jenny Weaver Issues Urgent Warning: Why Christians ‘Cannot Redeem’ Jack-O-Lanterns and Halloween

Halloween is not a game. Instead, it is a dark day that Christians should avoid celebrating at all costs.

Ex-witch-turned-revivalist Jenny Weaver shared why Christians should not only avoid Halloween, but the specific danger behind the jack-o-lantern.

“Jack-o-lanterns originated from a festival called Samhain, and they believed on this one day that the veil would be very thin and the dead could arise from graves and come back and wreck vengeance and horror on the living.”

Weaver notes that in ancient tradition, people would cut out scary faces in the gourds as a means to ward off these evil spirits from attacking. She also points out another legend regarding the jack-o-lantern, which is about a blacksmith whose name was Jack.

“He made a pact with the devil, so the devil couldn’t take his soul. When he died, he couldn’t go on to heaven, and he couldn’t go into hell, so Satan forced him to roam around with this carved out pumpkin light as his only way to see, and he went around wrecking havoc and horror on the lives of people,” Weaver says.

With these demonic background origins, Weaver notes that the jack-o-lantern is irredeemable from being anything good because it is rooted in darkness.

https://mycharisma.com/spiritual-warfare...halloween/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Even the pope needs a lecture what the Bible really says

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Some Mormons believe that Bigfoot is the biblical Cain who killed Abel

The story originated in 1835, when Mormon leader David W. Patten said he met a "dark, hairy figure" who told him that he was an outcast who wandered the forests. He was later identified as Cain, who some believe is still roaming the jungles in North America. Some Mormon folklore suggests that Bigfoot, or Cain's existence, is linked to evil and sin. But again, it is only believed by a small group. Cain is believed to have been washed away in Noah's flood. Yet, it has managed to float around for years, especially after reports of Bigfoot sightings in the 1980s.

The Journal of Mormon History carries a peer-reviewed, academic paper on the story. Written by Matthew Bowman, a historian and scholar of American religious history, it talks about how Cain and Bigfoot came to be associated with each other. The paper states that this theory gained prominence in the 1980s when people in South Weber, Utah, said they saw "Bigfoot". Bowman added that Bigfoot was how people explained seeing strange things moving in the forest. Cain is also portrayed as a hairy beast, seemingly because of is a symbol of evil. The physical appearance of both creatures matches in the tales.

https://www.wionews.com/trending/biblica...6716087132
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Guys, please watch out for the bad magic because not all magic is good. Some of it comes from the devil and even the Christians well educated in the Bible cannot easily make a distinction between the two.

You must especially be on the lookout for the magic in novels and movies. Just because they are set in a fictional world doesn't mean they can't be real-world magic.

It also has to do a lot with the dreaded Gen Z. Remember how that is one of our favorite sound bites when we talk about what is wrong with the world today.

Quote:How Should Christians Evaluate Fictional Magic?

Concurrently, we’re seeing an astronomical rise in the presence and practice of real-life witchcraft. With many from Gen Z turning to the occult, contemporary paganism and Wicca are making a comeback.

Christians know discernment is essential in a culture where fictional and real-world magic are more and more prominent. How do we discern what “fictional magic” is edifying and what isn’t?

When evaluating a work of fantasy, what matters most isn’t so much whether the word “magic” is used but the way magic is used in the narrative. This requires, on the one hand, that we avoid labeling all supernaturalism in fantasy as inherently harmless because “it’s all pretend” or “it’s just a movie.” On the other hand, it requires that we avoid labeling all supernaturalism in fantasy as inherently harmful because “it’s all of the Devil.”

A common theme of the prohibited occult practices in Deuteronomy 18 is seeking unknown knowledge (especially regarding future events) through some kind of reliance on evil spirits. Extrapolating from this passage, we might explain the essence of witchcraft as going around God to achieve what you want, apart from his aid or permission.

But not all supernatural activity is demonic. There are many instances in the Bible where supernatural activity—the sorts of things we might see in a sci-fi or fantasy movie—are done by God’s power and for his purposes.

●Superhuman strength (Judg. 15:13–15)
●Teleportation (Acts 8:39–40)
●Visions of the future (1 Sam. 10:1–9; Acts 9:12)
●Employing sacred items to obtain knowledge of hidden things (1 Sam. 14:41–42)

Biblical wisdom would lead us to consider not only the use of the supernatural but also the “heart” of the work. This would include the postures and motivations that either press characters toward or drive them away from God.

Another problematic use of magic is that in some modern stories—such as Weapons and Doctor Strange—the protagonists end up using the dark arts.

It’s not always easy to tell the true nature of a miraculous act. Sometimes, acts of God and acts of Satan look similar (Exod. 7:10–11; 7:20–22; 8:6–7). Even those who rigorously study and teach Scripture can misinterpret divine work as demonic work (Matt. 12:22–32). That’s why it’s important to evaluate the context of the action.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/artic...nal-magic/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(October 5, 2025 at 1:48 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Guys, please watch out for the bad magic because not all magic is good. Some of it comes from the devil and even the Christians well educated in the Bible cannot easily make a distinction between the two.

You must especially be on the lookout for the magic in novels and movies. Just because they are set in a fictional world doesn't mean they can't be real-world magic.

It also has to do a lot with the dreaded Gen Z. Remember how that is one of our favorite sound bites when we talk about what is wrong with the world today.

Quote:How Should Christians Evaluate Fictional Magic?

Concurrently, we’re seeing an astronomical rise in the presence and practice of real-life witchcraft. With many from Gen Z turning to the occult, contemporary paganism and Wicca are making a comeback.

Christians know discernment is essential in a culture where fictional and real-world magic are more and more prominent. How do we discern what “fictional magic” is edifying and what isn’t?

When evaluating a work of fantasy, what matters most isn’t so much whether the word “magic” is used but the way magic is used in the narrative. This requires, on the one hand, that we avoid labeling all supernaturalism in fantasy as inherently harmless because “it’s all pretend” or “it’s just a movie.” On the other hand, it requires that we avoid labeling all supernaturalism in fantasy as inherently harmful because “it’s all of the Devil.”

A common theme of the prohibited occult practices in Deuteronomy 18 is seeking unknown knowledge (especially regarding future events) through some kind of reliance on evil spirits. Extrapolating from this passage, we might explain the essence of witchcraft as going around God to achieve what you want, apart from his aid or permission.

But not all supernatural activity is demonic. There are many instances in the Bible where supernatural activity—the sorts of things we might see in a sci-fi or fantasy movie—are done by God’s power and for his purposes.

●Superhuman strength (Judg. 15:13–15)
●Teleportation (Acts 8:39–40)
●Visions of the future (1 Sam. 10:1–9; Acts 9:12)
●Employing sacred items to obtain knowledge of hidden things (1 Sam. 14:41–42)

Biblical wisdom would lead us to consider not only the use of the supernatural but also the “heart” of the work. This would include the postures and motivations that either press characters toward or drive them away from God.

Another problematic use of magic is that in some modern stories—such as Weapons and Doctor Strange—the protagonists end up using the dark arts.

It’s not always easy to tell the true nature of a miraculous act. Sometimes, acts of God and acts of Satan look similar (Exod. 7:10–11; 7:20–22; 8:6–7). Even those who rigorously study and teach Scripture can misinterpret divine work as demonic work (Matt. 12:22–32). That’s why it’s important to evaluate the context of the action.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/artic...nal-magic/

That was quite a wall of text when the answer can be writte, "all magic is fictional".

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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(September 30, 2025 at 10:35 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Jewish exorcism is real

On some occasions souls of dead people will possess a human body so that they can communicate their problem and hopefully have it resolved.

Those souls will require an exorcism. These troubled souls are trapped between two worlds. They're no longer living, but they can't move on to the spiritual realm.
They're deeply tormented and they need to be healed.

The Exorcist must know the name of the being that's possessing its victim in order to have power over it.

The Exorcist communicates with the soul to try to convince it to surrender its name.

The exorcist will say, "I am going to say petitionary prayers for your soul. And I take it upon my authority to say that if you cooperate with me in this matter and you agree to leave the victim without causing her any further harm, I will personally guarantee that you will be admitted into Gehinnom."

And the exorcist wasn't only dealing with the soul doing the possessing, it was trying to expel something else, something much more sinister.
There is a kind of satanic demon that is like the prison guard that is attending all the time to that lost, tormented soul.
The exorcist would recite special prayers to banish the satanic overseers so that they could reach the soul and help the soul be freed.





I’ve read about that, and it seems rather naughty. It involves the rabbi blowing the chauffeur.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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