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Stupid things religious people say
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Oh look, Catholics claim that they invented Halloween. I wonder then why do Catholic countries forbid it then, like in South America, because this article certainly doesn't mention it.

Quote:Children’s book illustrates Catholic origins of Halloween

Much has been written about keeping Christ in Christmas but Catholic children’s author Anthony DeStefano’s new book is helping to keep the Hallow — or “holy” — in Halloween.

With the fun of spooky season — such as decorations (I currently have six inflatables in my front lawn and am scheduled to attend at least two trunk-or-treats) — it’s easy to forget the Catholic origins of Halloween.

DeStefano addresses this in his introductory note to parents — filled with scary dad jokes such as “Tomb it may concern.” He identifies Halloween by another name, All Hallows’ Eve, the first of the three days that make up All Hallow’s Tide, along with All Saints Day, Nov. 1, and All Souls Day, Nov. 2.

https://catholiccourier.com/articles/chi...halloween/

Meanwhile, Christians, as always, are raging against Halloween claiming it's a pagan holiday which purpose is to summon demons. I guess they didn't get the memo that Halloween is a Catholic-invented holiday.

Quote:Christian Activists Disrupt Salem Witches Market Amid Renewed Calls to Oppose Halloween

Beginning early this month and, frankly, on cue, a surge of conservative Christian messaging has renewed the annual calls to avoid Halloween celebrations — and, in some cases, to confront or disrupt them. While many faith groups simply discourage participation, others have taken a more aggressive approach, framing Halloween and related Pagan observances like Samhain as manifestations of evil that must be “spiritually opposed.”

Across social media, Christian influencers and ministries have once again amplified warnings that Halloween is “anti-Christian,” not merely secular or non-religious. Some claim that its roots in Samhain and ancestor veneration make it inherently pagan and demonic, even citing biblical passages as prohibitions against its observance.

Messages circulating among these groups urge believers to abstain from Halloween entirely, rejecting costumes, decorations, and even church-sponsored events as moral compromises. A few extend their condemnation to other popular holidays with pre-Christian roots, such as Christmas and Easter, calling them “man’s holidays” disguised as worship.

Media personalities like Glenn Beck have amplified the message, and in one case, describing October 31 as the most likely night for “human sacrifice” worldwide, a baseless but recurring claim in evangelical discourse.

While these ideas are not new, their intensity this year appears to have coincided with organized actions intended to “reclaim” public spaces from what these groups see as darkness. In Salem, often called “the Witch City,” that rhetoric has turned into direct confrontation the last two nights, escalating yesterday.

On Monday evening, October 27, a group affiliated with Philip Renner Ministries entered the Witch City Psychic Fair & Witches Market, an annual event hosted by Christian Day, Brian Cain, and the Witches of Salem. Day and Cain are owners of Hex. The fair, held throughout October, features licensed psychics, readers, and artisans offering services and goods in the city’s pedestrian mall

According to witnesses, members of the ministry entered private vendor areas, disrupted psychic readings, and anointed tables, photographs, and other materials with oil — a ritual act they later celebrated online. Ultimately, desecrating an Ancestor altar.

“Radical Christians came into our psychic fair on Sunday evening and began harassing our psychic fair, anointing our photos and tables with oil that could potentially damage our property. The Salem Police gave them nothing but a warning,” said the owners.

This is not the first disruption of similar events. In 2023, a different group of Christian protesters entered the Witches’ circle on Salem Commons, and police took no action to remove them. While barriers and training were provided in 2024, similar enforcement issues have resurfaced this year.

“I probably shouldn’t have to stress this,” he added, underscoring his concern, “but vandalism is not protected by the First Amendment. ”

The incident has sparked widespread outrage within Salem’s Pagan and interfaith communities. Angie Buchanan, a longtime Pagan leader, condemned the group’s behavior in a public post on the Christian group’s site.

“That you so-called Christians would have the audacity to presume that you are entitled to go anywhere you please, waving your religion around like a naked penis, and spiritually violating people — how dare you! Keep your religion in your church just like you keep your penises in your pants. This kind of performative conduct is the epitome of arrogance and self-serving pride.”

Philip Renner Ministries has posted videos of similar disruptions at other events, including Atlanta Pride, and has announced plans to appear in Orlando, Florida, in the coming weeks. The group frames these actions as part of a campaign to “shock the darkness” and bring “revival” to public gatherings they view as spiritually dangerous.

For Salem’s Pagan community, however, these actions feel less like evangelism and more like targeted harassment — and a reminder of the fragility of religious freedom in spaces where spiritual diversity should be celebrated.

https://wildhunt.org/2025/10/christian-a...oween.html

But why does Angie Buchanan, a longtime Pagan leader, call them "so-called Christians" for presuming that they are entitled to go anywhere and wave their religion around like a naked penis?

They are not "so-called Christians" but actual Christians. Jesus didn't say "Go around and respect other people's religions," he said the opposite.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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"If you don't support my bigotry against gay people, you are persecuting Christians, and you are setting a dangerous precedent, as it gives employers the freedom to block people who hate their coworkers and clients."

Quote:Britain ‘no longer believes in free speech for Christians’

Christians in Britain do not enjoy free speech, according to a man who claims he was discriminated against when he missed out on a job because of his views on homosexuality.

Felix Ngole, 47, applied to be a mental health support worker with Touchstone Leeds, based in Wakefield, West Yorkshire in 2022, and was offered the role. However, the offer was withdrawn after he said homosexuality and same-sex marriage were sins.

Speaking ahead of his appeal hearing, he said: “The ruling ultimately sets a dangerous precedent as it gives employers the freedom to block Christians, and anyone who doesn’t promote LGBTQI+ ideology, from employment.

“If we get to the point where if you don’t celebrate and support LGBT ideology you can’t have a job, then every Christian out there doesn’t have a future. You can study as much as you like, but you will not have a chance.

“The UK is no longer the country I heard about all those years ago when fleeing Cameroon. The UK then was a bastion of free speech and expression.”

During the employment tribunal, Touchstone argued that vulnerable LGBT service users requiring mental health support could be more likely to harm themselves if they found out Mr Ngole’s views about homosexuality.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10...ans-claim/

Again, Christians, you are free to hate gay people, but that doesn't mean other people have to tolerate your hate.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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After all these years he still hasn't accepted his wife, or is it that when he became a Catholic, he suddenly found his wife's religion unacceptable?

Quote:JD Vance hopes Hindu wife will 'one day' share Christian faith

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event this week, Vance said his wife “comes with me to church” and that the couple has chosen to raise their three children as Christians.

“Do I hope, eventually, that she is somehow moved by the same thing that I was moved by in church? Yeah, I honestly do wish that, because I believe in the Christian gospel,” he told students.

Vance added that if his wife chose not to convert, it would not cause conflict in their marriage: “If she doesn’t, then God says everybody has free will, so that doesn’t cause a problem for me.”

Usha Vance has previously said she remains committed to her Hindu upbringing and has no plans to convert, but she supports her husband’s faith and ensures their children learn from both traditions.

https://premierchristian.news/us/news/ar...tian-faith

It seems that as a husband he's okay with his wife's religion, but as a Christian he is bothered with it.

And it also seems that Christianity is drawing him toward Erika Kirk.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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I don't know that he's so much bothered by his wife's religion as he is the thought of losing the support of the sexists, racists, and bigots that he thinks are going to make him the next president.
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Have you noticed that the more Catholic priests talk, the more psychiatric care they require?

Quote:Exorcists’ group warns against celebrating Halloween: here’s why

The International Association of Exorcists (AIE) has warned against celebrating “demonic” and “pagan” Halloween.

In an article published on October 27 titled “The Halloween deception, the beauty of All Saints,” written by AIE vice president and experienced exorcist Fr. Francesco Bamonte, the organization called on Catholics not to participate in Halloween but instead celebrate All Saints Day.

“Few know that from September 22nd of each year the groups and movements of neo-Witchcraft Wicca and Satanism begin a blasphemous ‘Lent’ that continues for forty days, characterized by increasingly vile actions and rituals to reach their peak on the night between October 31st and November 1st, which they call Halloween night, but for Catholics all over the world it is instead the beautiful bright night of the Feast of All Saints,” Bamonte wrote.

“Unlike All Saints’ Day, Halloween proposes dark themes such as murderous violence, the mockery of death or its despairing exaltation, the macabre, horror, the occult, witchcraft, the demonic,” the article states.

“Halloween thus exalts ugliness and celebrates gruesomeness and darkness, instilling the horrid in the minds of the little ones and young people, and then exposing them to nightmares and night terrors.”

“The neo-witchcraft of our times, which has organized itself in motion under the name of Wicca, on its main festivals of the year celebrates, as the Celts did, the anniversary of Samhain,” which takes place on the night between October 31 and November 1 and marks the “beginning of the satanic year.”

“Those who celebrate Halloween, therefore, even if they do not intend to join witchcraft and do not intend to celebrate the devil, in fact put themselves in communion with these dark realities,” the AIE warned.

Fr. Bamonte cited the founder of the Church of Satan in the U.S., Anton LaVey, who said, “I am glad that Christian parents allow their children to worship the devil at least one night a year. Welcome to Halloween!”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exorci...heres-why/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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"American government has an extremely classified document on religion and that Jesus was genetically engineered".
Bob Lazar





That explains why Jesus could walk on water.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Where did he learn this theology? From the pope? Evangelicals? Megachurch? Televangelist?

Quote:Dave Ramsey Says Owning 15-20 Houses Isn’t Greedy, Because ‘God Owns It, And I’m Just Managing It For Him’

Personal finance expert Dave Ramsey is pushing back against claims that owning multiple properties is greedy.

In an episode of “The Ramsey Show,” he responded to critics who say investors like him are worsening the housing crisis.

“How is it considered ethical for people to own so many houses?” a listener asked. “I’m just wondering how, as a Christian, this isn’t seen as greed. Don’t you know that buying up all these homes is what’s causing the housing shortage?”

Ramsey said he owns “15, 20 houses and a bunch of commercial real estate as well” but doesn’t see it as greed.

“Because I don’t own anything. I’m a Christian and that means God owns it and I’m managing it for him.”

He went further: “So I guess you’re calling God greedy now.”

On X, he doubled down on the same point:

“Owning multiple properties doesn’t make you greedy. Greed isn’t about how much you have—it’s about your heart.”

Ramsey added that blaming Christians for owning material things is a misunderstanding of scripture.

“If you want to be a socialist, just be a socialist. Don’t try to blame Christianity for it. That’s a form of heresy called Gnosticism.”

https://offthefrontpage.com/dave-ramsey-...nt-greedy/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(November 6, 2025 at 8:11 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Where did he learn this theology? From the pope? Evangelicals? Megachurch? Televangelist?

Quote:Dave Ramsey Says Owning 15-20 Houses Isn’t Greedy, Because ‘God Owns It, And I’m Just Managing It For Him’

Personal finance expert Dave Ramsey is pushing back against claims that owning multiple properties is greedy.

In an episode of “The Ramsey Show,” he responded to critics who say investors like him are worsening the housing crisis.

“How is it considered ethical for people to own so many houses?” a listener asked. “I’m just wondering how, as a Christian, this isn’t seen as greed. Don’t you know that buying up all these homes is what’s causing the housing shortage?”

Ramsey said he owns “15, 20 houses and a bunch of commercial real estate as well” but doesn’t see it as greed.

“Because I don’t own anything. I’m a Christian and that means God owns it and I’m managing it for him.”

He went further: “So I guess you’re calling God greedy now.”

On X, he doubled down on the same point:

“Owning multiple properties doesn’t make you greedy. Greed isn’t about how much you have—it’s about your heart.”

Ramsey added that blaming Christians for owning material things is a misunderstanding of scripture.

“If you want to be a socialist, just be a socialist. Don’t try to blame Christianity for it. That’s a form of heresy called Gnosticism.”

https://offthefrontpage.com/dave-ramsey-...nt-greedy/
Is this because god is not able to manage things himself?
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Dave Ramsey is God's property manager.

Good to know. Those guys are usually complete jerks...this explains a lot.

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