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November 17, 2025 at 12:54 pm (This post was last modified: November 17, 2025 at 12:54 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(November 17, 2025 at 11:35 am)Paraselene Wrote: @awty
Is MTG changing?
Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said Sunday she will stop using “toxic” rhetoric, marking what would be a dramatic shift in a political brand hallmarked by derogatory comments.
The commitment comes amid a rift with Donald Trump that has spilled into public view, with the president attacking the Georgia Republican personally. Greene, meanwhile, has pivoted away from the Republican Party more broadly recently, criticizing the GOP on a number of fronts, including the party’s handling of the government shutdown.
In an exclusive interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” on Sunday, Greene said she worried Trump’s rhetoric toward her could lead to violence against her.
“The most hurtful thing (Trump) said, which is absolutely untrue, is he called me a traitor, and that is so extremely wrong,” Greene said, “and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger.”
When pressed by Bash on why she didn’t speak out against Trump using such rhetoric until it was directed at her, Greene conceded that it was “fair criticism.”
“I would like to say, humbly, I’m sorry for taking part in the toxic politics; it’s very bad for our country,” Greene said. “It’s been something I’ve thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.”
Greene said she realized that she has participated in or supported heated rhetoric that has resulted in threats toward others, a point of reflection for her.
“I’m only responsible for myself and my own words and actions … and I’ve been working on this a lot lately, to put down the knives in politics,” Greene said. “I really want to just see people be kind to one another.”
This is not a change of heart for her. This is her positioning herself for the post-Trump Republican Party.
(November 17, 2025 at 12:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: MTG being hailed as the smartest guy in the room is the surest sign yet that America is on the skids.
Quote:A federal magistrate judge has ordered the Justice Department to turn over grand jury materials to former FBI Director James Comey as he fights criminal charges, pointing to possible government misconduct as reason to grant the unusual relief.
Judge William Fitzpatrick referenced several apparent missteps by Lindsey Halligan, the interim U.S. attorney hand-picked by President Trump to pursue charges against his foe, that may have threatened the proceeding’s fairness.
He said that Comey’s right to due process outweighs the typical secrecy afforded to grand jury proceedings, directing prosecutors to hand over the materials by the end of Monday.
“The Court recognizes that the relief sought by the defense is rarely granted,” Fitzpatrick said. “However, the record points to a disturbing pattern of profound investigative missteps, missteps that led an FBI agent and a prosecutor to potentially undermine the integrity of the grand jury proceeding.”
The Trump DoJ unfairly prosecuting? Quelle surprise.
And in potentially related news:
Quote:A whistleblower has accused Ed Martin of “concealing and destroying” communications related to his work as head of the Weaponization Working Group, sparking an investigation by House Judiciary Democrats.
President Trump tapped Martin to investigate a number of probes into Trump’s conduct, with the attorney reviewing the work of former special counsel Jack Smith and the suite of prosecutors who brought charges against the president. He has also played a key role in investigations and prosecutions of some Trump foes.
Judiciary Democrats on Monday asked Martin for “a complete inventory of all personal devices, email accounts, messaging applications, and social media accounts” he has used for work.
“My staff have received credible allegations that you are violating federal law by concealing and destroying your communications in order to hide the activities of the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) Weaponization Working Group,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), the top Democrat on the panel, wrote to Martin.
“As you are well aware, as one of America’s top-ranking federal lawyers charged with supervising enforcement of these laws, you are obligated to follow the law yourself and preserve messages related to your DOJ work in the official DOJ systems. Your purported failure to do so is not only illegal but it also suggests that you are knowingly covering up incriminating conversations that you need to keep off the books.”
(November 17, 2025 at 12:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 17, 2025 at 11:35 am)Paraselene Wrote: @awty
Is MTG changing?
Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said Sunday she will stop using “toxic” rhetoric, marking what would be a dramatic shift in a political brand hallmarked by derogatory comments.
The commitment comes amid a rift with Donald Trump that has spilled into public view, with the president attacking the Georgia Republican personally. Greene, meanwhile, has pivoted away from the Republican Party more broadly recently, criticizing the GOP on a number of fronts, including the party’s handling of the government shutdown.
In an exclusive interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” on Sunday, Greene said she worried Trump’s rhetoric toward her could lead to violence against her.
“The most hurtful thing (Trump) said, which is absolutely untrue, is he called me a traitor, and that is so extremely wrong,” Greene said, “and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger.”
When pressed by Bash on why she didn’t speak out against Trump using such rhetoric until it was directed at her, Greene conceded that it was “fair criticism.”
“I would like to say, humbly, I’m sorry for taking part in the toxic politics; it’s very bad for our country,” Greene said. “It’s been something I’ve thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.”
Greene said she realized that she has participated in or supported heated rhetoric that has resulted in threats toward others, a point of reflection for her.
“I’m only responsible for myself and my own words and actions … and I’ve been working on this a lot lately, to put down the knives in politics,” Greene said. “I really want to just see people be kind to one another.”
This is not a change of heart for her. This is her positioning herself for the post-Trump Republican Party.
(November 17, 2025 at 12:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: MTG being hailed as the smartest guy in the room is the surest sign yet that America is on the skids.
Boru
Except that she's not being hailed as such.
In some corners, she is. Mostly by people who can’t see through the sheep’s clothing to the wolf underneath.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
(November 17, 2025 at 5:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 17, 2025 at 12:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Except that she's not being hailed as such.
In some corners, she is. Mostly by people who can’t see through the sheep’s clothing to the wolf underneath.
Boru
"Some corners" don't speak for all of America. She may be the smartest in their room; take care not to jam us all into one auditorium, and then judge the nation by that small corner.
November 18, 2025 at 5:40 am (This post was last modified: November 18, 2025 at 5:41 am by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has claimed, without evidence, that beef prices could hit $10/pound because individual migrants are crossing the border and bring their diseased cattle with them.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Yeah, before some PFC declines to follow an order they think might be illegal, I’d strongly advise them to put in a call to JAG.
Boru
^This^
While it it's commonly held that troops can disobey illegal orders, much as it's held that killing in self defense is legal, you will be charged, arrested, and potentially prosecuted.
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