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Stupid things religious people say
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Catholic League: "Megyn Kelly is right about Epstein"

Quote:Megyn Kelly is being bashed for saying that Jeffrey Epstein was “not a pedophile.”

Her critics are plainly ignorant, and their gripe is not with her—it’s with the American Academy of Pediatrics. It defines puberty as beginning at age ten for whites and Hispanics and nine for African Americans. A pedophile is a person who has sex with a prepubescent male or female, meaning someone ten or younger.

In reference to Epstein, Kelly rightly noted that “we have yet to see anybody come forward and say I was under 10, I was under 14.” She was also correct to say, “There’s a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old.”

For too long, the media and the chattering class have said that the Catholic Church clergy abuse scandal was due to “pedophile priests.” Wrong. The data clearly show that the vast majority of priestly victims were male (81 percent) and that 78 percent were postpubescent. Why is this important? Because it means the molesters were homosexuals. When males have sex with males who are postpubsecent, that’s called homosexuality, not pedophilia.

https://www.catholicleague.org/megyn-kel...t-epstein/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Strictly speaking, she's right. Probably. It seems unlikely that Epstein was preying on prepubescent girls. His "type" seems to have been 15-16 year old adolescents.

However, that's splitting hairs. He was still a 50-year-old man forcing himself on 15-year-old girls, possibly younger. That's still statutory rape. Still horrible in so many horrible ways. 

Nothing more than Megan Kelly mainsplaining for a sexual predator and his best pal regardless of the exact nature of their crimes.
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Presence of women persecutes Christian men.

Quote:Rensselaer County man claims working alone with women violated his religion

In a federal lawsuit filed Oct. 14 in the Northern District of New York, Paul Ostapa alleges the Colonie branch of Trane Technologies did not follow through on his request for a religious accommodation and ultimately fired him from his HVAC technician job.

The trouble began when the company hired a female technician in the spring of 2022. A Southern Baptist, Ostapa asked his manager to not assign him to work alone with her due to his religious beliefs. While the manager initially agreed, Ostapa said at one point he was left alone with the woman when another technician left a commercial job site; he was reported to human resources when he later told a dispatcher he could not work with the female technician due to the religious accommodation. Ostapa was fired in October 2022 for insubordination, the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit references a code of conduct followed by some evangelical Christians that is known as the “Billy Graham rule,” advising men to avoid spending time with women — such as traveling, meeting or dining — they are not married to. Graham was a pioneering televangelist and counselor to elected officials of both major parties.

Ostapa’s lawsuit references two Biblical passages in support of this conduct, including one in Genesis where an enslaved Joseph (of the coat of many colors) is falsely accused of making advances toward his owner’s wife. While the lawsuit says Ostapa later learned his coworker was a lesbian, it states that even the perception of possible misconduct with a woman would go against his beliefs.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/...178107.php
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Denver ranked as one of the most ‘sinful’ cities in the US

The study ranked 182 American cities on how “sinful” they are, and Denver made the top 10 most sinful cities in the U.S.

The study looked at seven areas of focus: anger & hatred, jealousy, excesses & vices, greed, lust, vanity and laziness to determine the ranking using 37 data points including things like violent crime, obesity rates and online searches for illicit behavior.

The Mile High City came in at the No. 6 most sinful city in the U.S., according to the ranking, putting it with the likes of notorious “sinful” cities like Las Vegas, Miami and New Orleans in the top 10.

Among Denver’s most “sinful” categories were “anger & hatred” and “lust,” both of which Denver came in at No. 9.

Data points in the anger and hatred category include violent crime rates, bullying, hate groups, gun deaths and mass shootings. In the lust category, the study looked at adult entertainment establishments, online searches for “XXX Entertainment” and “Tinder” and teen birth rates.

The study also looked at excessive drinking in the excesses & vices category. Denver ranked No. 44 in the category as whole, but the Mile High city was the No. 2 city for excessive drinking specifically.

Top 10 sinful cities:

1 Las Vegas, NV
2 Houston, TX
3 Los Angeles, CA
4 Philadelphia, PA
5 Atlanta, GA
6 Denver, CO
7 Miami, FL
8 Dallas, TX
9 Phoenix, AZ
10 New Orleans, LA

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mile...09963.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Slavery produced in the South a genuine affection between the races because it was Biblical.

Quote:Pastor Douglas Wilson Argues That Opposing Slavery Is a Slippery Slope to LGBTQ+ Inclusion

In his defense of “biblical slavery,” Wilson then recalled a televised debate between Moral Majority leader Jerry Falwell Sr. and a progressive Episcopal bishop. Wilson said that Falwell “was doing good Christian work in rejecting homosexuality” but then was questioned about the fact that “the Bible allows for slavery.”

Wilson argued that Falwell ought to have said, “Yes, it does. What’s your point?” However, what Falwell argued instead was “something like ‘that was then, and this is now.’”

“I hope you can see the problem right off. Why do evangelicals get to play the ‘that-was-then-this-is-now’ game, and the gay boys don’t get to?” said Wilson. “This is a different world now, in which that kind of slavery is unthinkable. Well, yeah, but among the Episcopalians of Newark they believe it to be unthinkable to proscribe two dudes from getting it on.”

Wilson said that after watching that exchange, he resolved never “to let myself get maneuvered into waffling or backfilling about anything that the Bible plainly teaches—however roughly it treats our modern sensibilities.”

Wilson argued that evangelicals have been led by “professionally timid leaders” to “treat the Bible as a figurehead,” explaining that while many evangelicals are favorable to the idea of having the 10 Commandments posted in public spaces, those same evangelicals overlook the fact that two of the commandments mention slaves. In the command about Sabbath rest, the biblical text explicates that slaves will cease from labor on the seventh day, and in the command about covetousness, God’s people are specifically told not to covet their neighbors’ slaves.

Wilson went on to advocate for “biblical absolutism,” arguing that just as Philemon was within his rights in the first century to own slaves so long as “he followed the biblical instructions and was careful to treat his slaves with equity,” had Philemon lived in the antebellum American South, he “could own slaves, treat them biblically, and walk with God.”

Wilson argued that “Slavery produced in the South a genuine affection between the races that we believe we can say has never existed in any nation before the War or since.”

https://churchleaders.com/news/2208977-d...usion.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Please Christians, get angry at Wikipedia and boycott it, so that Elon Musk can buy it.

Also, how can something be biased if they feature a whole plethora of opinions on the subject?

The Fox News's idea of non-bias is featuring only one opinion but the "right" one.

Quote:Wikipedia articles on Jesus reflect bias issues at site

Type "Jesus’ sexuality" into Wikipedia, and you’ll find citations on homoerotic interpretations of Christ, speculative theology, even debates about whether the disciple John was his true beloved — all instances where boundaries sacred to Christianity are crossed in ways that have no equivalent for other religious topics on the site.

One of the first results you’ll get is an article whose very title hints at content Christians could find deeply offensive. The article on "Sexuality and marital status of Jesus" includes extensive discussion of the notion that Jesus was gay, although it does note atop the article that churches and theologians traditionally hold Jesus was celibate and never married, and that article of faith has not "prevented alternative and fringe theories of his sexuality."

Under the heading of "Homosexuality" (which redirects from the "Gay Jesus" search term), Wikipedia explains that the reference to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" from the Gospel of John has been "used by those who implied a homosocial or homoerotic reading of the relationship." The article then discusses the work of a theologian who wrote a book titled "Queering Christ", which characterizes the relationship between Jesus and John as "a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger man."

A separate, standalone article, "List of works depicting Jesus as LGBT," where Wikipedia catalogs works that show Christ as gay, states, "Jesus’ sexuality is a topic of significant academic discussion." The article is written almost entirely by the editor who created it, a site admin who identifies as "nonbinary" and "trans" and rejects the notion of gender identity.

Other Wikipedia articles are focused entirely on specific works of art, film and literature that depict Jesus as gay. For example, one article is dedicated to a Danish screenplay, "The Many Faces of Jesus", which portrays Christ engaging in various sexual acts or wrongdoing.

Some may argue that these texts and theologians hold these opinions, and therefore warrant inclusion in Wikipedia. But that misses the point. Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger recently published a series of essays called the "Nine Theses," in which he characterizes the site’s most dominant editors as Global Academic Secular and Progressive (GASP), the same worldview that mainstreams once-fringe academic notions, like the claim that Jesus was gay. Views that diverge from the GASP consensus are sidelined or minimized.

The reality is that Wikipedia has a serious bias problem, as at least one important study has shown. One solution may be expanding the number of viewpoints on the site, by onboarding editors with more conservative or traditionally religious views.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/wikipedia-...s-site.amp
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(November 18, 2025 at 3:37 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Denver ranked as one of the most ‘sinful’ cities in the US

The study ranked 182 American cities on how “sinful” they are, and Denver made the top 10 most sinful cities in the U.S.

The study looked at seven areas of focus: anger & hatred, jealousy, excesses & vices, greed, lust, vanity and laziness to determine the ranking using 37 data points including things like violent crime, obesity rates and online searches for illicit behavior.

The Mile High City came in at the No. 6 most sinful city in the U.S., according to the ranking, putting it with the likes of notorious “sinful” cities like Las Vegas, Miami and New Orleans in the top 10.

Among Denver’s most “sinful” categories were “anger & hatred” and “lust,” both of which Denver came in at No. 9.

Data points in the anger and hatred category include violent crime rates, bullying, hate groups, gun deaths and mass shootings. In the lust category, the study looked at adult entertainment establishments, online searches for “XXX Entertainment” and “Tinder” and teen birth rates.

The study also looked at excessive drinking in the excesses & vices category. Denver ranked No. 44 in the category as whole, but the Mile High city was the No. 2 city for excessive drinking specifically.

Top 10 sinful cities:

1 Las Vegas, NV
2 Houston, TX
3 Los Angeles, CA
4 Philadelphia, PA
5 Atlanta, GA
6 Denver, CO
7 Miami, FL
8 Dallas, TX
9 Phoenix, AZ
10 New Orleans, LA

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mile...09963.html

*booking my flight*

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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(November 19, 2025 at 1:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Please Christians, get angry at Wikipedia and boycott it, so that Elon Musk can buy it.

Also, how can something be biased if they feature a whole plethora of opinions on the subject?

The Fox News's idea of non-bias is featuring only one opinion but the "right" one.

Quote:Wikipedia articles on Jesus reflect bias issues at site

Type "Jesus’ sexuality" into Wikipedia, and you’ll find citations on homoerotic interpretations of Christ, speculative theology, even debates about whether the disciple John was his true beloved — all instances where boundaries sacred to Christianity are crossed in ways that have no equivalent for other religious topics on the site.

One of the first results you’ll get is an article whose very title hints at content Christians could find deeply offensive. The article on "Sexuality and marital status of Jesus" includes extensive discussion of the notion that Jesus was gay, although it does note atop the article that churches and theologians traditionally hold Jesus was celibate and never married, and that article of faith has not "prevented alternative and fringe theories of his sexuality."

Under the heading of "Homosexuality" (which redirects from the "Gay Jesus" search term), Wikipedia explains that the reference to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" from the Gospel of John has been "used by those who implied a homosocial or homoerotic reading of the relationship." The article then discusses the work of a theologian who wrote a book titled "Queering Christ", which characterizes the relationship between Jesus and John as "a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger man."

A separate, standalone article, "List of works depicting Jesus as LGBT," where Wikipedia catalogs works that show Christ as gay, states, "Jesus’ sexuality is a topic of significant academic discussion." The article is written almost entirely by the editor who created it, a site admin who identifies as "nonbinary" and "trans" and rejects the notion of gender identity.

Other Wikipedia articles are focused entirely on specific works of art, film and literature that depict Jesus as gay. For example, one article is dedicated to a Danish screenplay, "The Many Faces of Jesus", which portrays Christ engaging in various sexual acts or wrongdoing.

Some may argue that these texts and theologians hold these opinions, and therefore warrant inclusion in Wikipedia. But that misses the point. Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger recently published a series of essays called the "Nine Theses," in which he characterizes the site’s most dominant editors as Global Academic Secular and Progressive (GASP), the same worldview that mainstreams once-fringe academic notions, like the claim that Jesus was gay. Views that diverge from the GASP consensus are sidelined or minimized.

The reality is that Wikipedia has a serious bias problem, as at least one important study has shown. One solution may be expanding the number of viewpoints on the site, by onboarding editors with more conservative or traditionally religious views.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/wikipedia-...s-site.amp

People need to calm down. Jesus could have banged (and been banged by) every one of his disciples while wearing leather gear and nipple clamps, and STILL not have been a patch on what some of the gods of other religions got up to.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Once again the Christian right is all about reducing diversity so that only white Christian viewpoints are counted.
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So that's why churches smell like stale farts.

Quote:Older Christians ‘hold it in’ during church services as new poll exposes surprising toilet habits

On World Toilet Day a new poll by the Christian Charity Tearfund has exposed church goer’s toilet habits when in a service.

More than half of older Christians chose to “hold it in” during church services rather than leave for the loo, which has revealed a surprising generational divide in the pews.

Survey showed that 56 per cent of older Christians preferred to endure discomfort, while younger worshippers were far more likely to slip out mid-sermon, with 29 per cent saying they would happily miss part of the service.

https://premierchristian.news/en/news/ar...h-services
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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