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Stupid things religious people say
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(November 19, 2025 at 5:48 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: So that's why churches smell like stale farts.

Quote:Older Christians ‘hold it in’ during church services as new poll exposes surprising toilet habits

On World Toilet Day a new poll by the Christian Charity Tearfund has exposed church goer’s toilet habits when in a service.

More than half of older Christians chose to “hold it in” during church services rather than leave for the loo, which has revealed a surprising generational divide in the pews.

Survey showed that 56 per cent of older Christians preferred to endure discomfort, while younger worshippers were far more likely to slip out mid-sermon, with 29 per cent saying they would happily miss part of the service.

https://premierchristian.news/en/news/ar...h-services

We went to a church wedding not long ago and the missus and I slipped out for a tinkle at different times. We both got the stink eye on the way to and from the bog.

I don't know if any of you guys have ever been to a traditional Catholic wedding Mass, but they run about three hours long. By the second hour of sit-stand-kneel, you're not only bursting for a pee, but you're also looking at the guy on the Cross and thinking HE'S the lucky one.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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So God is using doctors hands to heal sick people. One really wonders why God is wasting his time on the 3rd party and not going directly to the sick person. Or why send diseases or accidents in the first place.

Quote:I’m a doctor, and I believe in medical miracles

When they do occur, medical miracles may tend to be gradual, an accumulation of positive events or coincidences over time. They frequently involve great doctoring (doctors and other healers have the “hands of God”) and the most advanced technology possible. Above all, they are not predictable.

Praying doesn’t always deliver the desired result, but that doesn’t disqualify it as a tool for healing. Sometimes, it is the combination of prayer with great doctoring that leads to an unexpected, miraculous recovery.

Back in 2018, Rep. Steve Scalise was famously shot on a ball field. The miracle here, as I describe in my new book, “The Miracles Among Us,” involved the talented director of interventional radiologist at MedStar, Arshad Khan, working together with the head of trauma, Jack Sava, to embolize and then repair the arteries piece by piece as Scalise received more than 50 units of transfused blood. Scalise’s fortitude and daily prayers afterward helped provide the fuel for his recovery.

Similarly, when Shane Dennehy dove off the back of a boat and was then chewed up by the propeller blade when he swam back to the side, a miracle occurred: The propeller exposed both the sciatic nerve and the femoral artery but stopped just short of severing them both, which would have rendered the leg unusable. The orthopedist, David Wellman, and the chief of plastic surgery told me that they were simply adding to the original miracle, that the art of great surgery augmented it. They were the hands of God. They performed months of revisions, repairs, implants, and wound healing, overcoming infectious setbacks, until Shane was able to walk out of the hospital and eventually return to water sports.

I believe in the existence of “a miracle lane,” where a compilation of seeming coincidences and positive medical turns saves a life unexpectedly. How else do you explain my patient Dick, who has overcome four cancers, severe heart disease requiring bypass, an occult bleed, and a neuromuscular disorder, living into his mid-80s despite continuing to smoke with his sense of humor intact?

A doctor who believes in miracles is one who doesn’t shut the door on the seemingly impossible too soon, but continues to fight with all their tools and skills for the expected as well as the unexpected cure.

https://www.statnews.com/2025/11/18/medi...ors-faith/


So he wrote a book. That explains it. You have to work your way to the Amazon best selling list.

But on a serious note, that last part is rather disturbing. I'm talking about a doctor not giving up on miracles till the end even in the impossible situations. Doctors shouldn't peddle lottery to patients. If someone has an incurable disease, it's better not to give him false hope, so that he can make peace with death and to say goodbye to the family.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Watch God as he is speaking directly through prophetess Kat Kerr: "No one will be able to impeach Trump. I have appointed him, anointed him. He is my president for America and will be so until I am finished with his assignment!"



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Looks like Kat Kerr doesn't really know what an 'impeachment' is. Guy's been impeached twice already.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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riiight.

They also forgot to put the quotes around the word archeologists.

Quote:Archaeologists Identify the Site Where Jesus Exorcised the Legion of Demons and the Herd of Pigs

(ZENIT News / Kursi, 11.17.2025).- Dr Scott Stripling, director of excavations for the Association for Biblical Research, reported on the combination of textual clues, geography and ruins in the city of Kursi, Israel, where the exorcism of the Legion of demons and the subsequent infestation of pigs in Gadara, described in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke, most likely took place.

The town of Kursi is located on the eastern shore of the Sea of ​​Galilee. Dr Stripling used information from a 1985 excavation that documented dozens of ancient ports along the Sea of ​​Galilee, including Kursi. This port had enormous stone breakwaters and a large fishpond. «From the port, every biblical detail fits within a 200-meter radius,» the archaeologist commented.

The research identified three geographical clues present in the three Gospels: a steep cliff near the water, a nearby cemetery, and Jesus’ arrival by boat from the western shore. These three elements converge at Kursi, which has a cliff less than 50 meters from the shore, a hill with ancient Jewish tombs, and the discovery of a Roman-era port partially submerged in the lake.

Beyond the archaeologist’s interpretation of the biblical passage, Christian tradition already identified Kursi as the site of the miracle, reflected in the ruins of a 5th-century Byzantine Basilica, known as the «Chapel of the Miracle,» on the hill overlooking the port. Some scholars see the representation of pigs in the remains of its mosaic.

https://zenit.org/2025/11/17/archaeologi...d-of-pigs/


So they didn't find bones from 2,000 pigs, but just followed the legend.

The other thing with this gospel story is that it was mostly inspired by a story from the Homer's Odyssey, like when the sorceress Circe turned Odysseus's soldiers into swine.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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People are using AI to talk to God

In India and around the world, worshippers are turning to purpose-built AI for religious worship and spiritual guidance. What happens when the machines become our new spiritual middlemen?

Faced with the questions and challenges of modern life, Vijay Meel, a 25-year-old student who lives in Rajasthan, India, turns to God. In the past he's consulted spiritual leaders. More recently, he asked GitaGPT.

GitaGPT is an artificial intelligence (AI) chatbot trained on the Bhagavad Gita, the holy book of 700 verses of dialogue with the Hindu god Krishna. GitaGPT looks like any text conversation you'd have with a friend – except the AI tells you you're texting with a god.

"When I couldn't clear my banking exams, I was dejected," Meel says. But after stumbling on GitaGPT, he typed in details about his inner crisis and asked for the AI's advice. "Focus on your actions and let go of the worry for its fruit," GitaGPT said. This, along with other guidance, left Meel feeling inspired.

As AI touches every aspect of the human experience, India may offer of a glimpse of what it will mean to interact with the divine through our newly talkative machines.

The past few years have seen many religious experiments with AI. In 2023, an AI app called Text With Jesus allows chat with AI manifestations of Jesus and other biblical figures.

The same year, a QuranGPT app designed to answer questions and provide guidance based on the Muslim holy text got so much traffic it reportedly crashed within a day of its launch. AI has even been the basis for entire religions, such as the Way of the Future church, a group started by former Google engineer Anthony Levandowski, which hopes to develop and promote the realisation of a god "based on artificial intelligence".

For centuries, religious communities have been anchored to priests, scholars and other spiritual leaders, says the reverend Lyndon Drake, a research fellow at the University of Oxford who studies theological ethics and artificial intelligence. But "AI chatbots might indeed challenge the status of religious leaders", Drake says.

Religious chatbots might be trained on scripture and dutifully quote verses, but they share the same bizarre hallucinations and shortcomings of other AIs. In one instance, GitaGPT claimed, in the voice of Krishna, that "killing in order to protect dharma is justified".

In 2024, an evangelist group called Catholic Answers rushed to take its chatbot priest Father Justin offline after the AI reportedly told users it was a real priest that could perform sacraments and said it would be fine to baptise a child in the soft drink Gatorade.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251...alk-to-god
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Is this a modern version of the prayer wheel?
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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Don't crossdress my God!

Quote:Outrage after Kali idol turned into Mother Mary at Mumbai temple; priest arrested

[Image: Kali.jpg]

The incident occurred on Saturday at the Kali temple located inside the Hindu cremation ground at Anik Village. A photo shows the goddess’s idol dressed in golden robes and wearing a large crown with white embellishments and a prominent golden cross mounted on top.

The face of the deity, traditionally depicted with black or deep blue skin, had been painted white. The idol was shown holding a child figure in her arm, presumed to represent baby Jesus.

The backdrop of the shrine had also been changed to a red cloth featuring a large golden cross, with decorative fairy lights and tinsel draped on both sides.

When devotees asked the temple priest what happened, he claimed the goddess appeared in his dream and instructed him to "adorn her in the form of Mother Mary".

Police swung into action after the vandalism was reported. The Kali idol was restored to its original state in the presence of police to prevent rumours or unrest in the area, officials said.

Right-wing groups, including the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and Bajrang Dal, condemned the incident and demanded that all those behind the act be identified and prosecuted. The activists also urged the police and state government to take strong measures to maintain law and order in the area.

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/cities/mum...2025-11-25



Meanwhile... What do Catholic priests really know about the aliens from outer space and will they ever disclose it to us?


Quote:Catholic filmmaker investigates UFO mysteries at the Vatican

A widely discussed new documentary about UFOs, “Age of Disclosure,” includes an allegation from a former CIA official that the Vatican holds evidence of the existence of non-human intelligence — and he does not mean angels.

Such claims have prompted Catholic filmmaker Sam Sorich to make his own documentary, which he says will investigate the allegation and articulate a Catholic response to the controversy now drawing the attention of U.S. lawmakers.

Catholic News Service followed Sorich’s team Oct. 31 as they filmed a scene in which Jesse Michels, a popular podcaster-researcher, was given a guided tour of a fascist-era military bunker in San Oreste, Italy, where the technology behind the alleged craft was said to have been studied.

“There was a well-known connection between this place and the Vatican,” Gregory Paolucci, founder of the Bunker Soratte museum and mayor of San Oreste, told the filmmakers in a segment filmed in front of a large, early-1940s photograph of Pope Pius XII that is part of the bunker’s display.

“We know the connection is real” between the bunker and the Vatican, Paolucci said, but he has never been able to confirm whether any of those connections relate to the alleged UFO and Pope Pius supposedly passing information about it to the U.S. government.

Former Vatican Observatory director Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno said the observatory’s policy during his tenure — and still, as far as he knows — was to avoid the topic of UFOs in the media.

“The subject of UFOs — or whatever they are calling them now — is a very touchy one. Most everything done about them is tainted badly by the charlatans who have poisoned the topic, and having a few reliable voices isn’t enough to stem the tide,” Brother Consolmagno said.

“Sadly, having been burned in the past, we’ve made the decision at the Vatican Observatory to simply avoid talking about the topic at all,” he said. “We simply can’t afford to be associated with it.”

Another lead Sorich pursued was a series of meetings — previously reported in the Italian press with headlines such as “Holy See Opens to UFOs” and “The Extraterrestrial Lands in the Vatican” — in which priests and theologians reportedly discussed UFOs at the Church of St. Anne inside the Vatican walls.

Sorich told CNS that, in addition to theologians and experts, he has interviewed Catholics who have reported UFO sightings or other paranormal events that do not fit neatly into classic angel-or-demon categories. Among them, he said, are an Italian priest, seminary professors and well-known figures in Catholic media.

In one segment filmed for the documentary in early November, former military chaplain Father Matthew Gray said he was told by highly credentialed people he trusted in the military that the U.S. government has recovered crashed UFOs.

Sorich, who teaches filmmaking at John Paul the Great Catholic University in San Diego, said he sees his work on UFOs as part of the listening and dialogue with contemporary culture that the church is calling for.

“UFO people are on the margins,” Sorich said. “They’ve been told that they’re crazy.”

“That has nothing to do with how you’re supposed to treat them, and love them and give them respect,” he said.

https://theleaven.org/catholic-filmmaker...e-vatican/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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