Rokcet Scientist "66% of Claimed Rapes are false"

[Handprint]

I'm going to repost what i posted in the last thread:

"I actually wouldn't wish rape on anyone and i would assume any reported rape until proven otherwise was true, just as I would assume any suicide attempt, was a genuine act of wishing to not exist anymore until proven otherwise, rather than a cry for help or attention. Suicide is final, there are better ways of asking for help such as "Please help me. I feel sad."

It's a dangerous game RocketScientist plays for the real victims of rape. Aren't you just giving more reason to rape victims to not come forward? I can just imagine them saying to themselves now "no one would believe me because people think most rapes didn't happen". Aren't you giving more justification to those that actually committed the crimes? More excuses? The number one goal of a rapist is to get away with it, just like with any other criminal. "Bank? What Bank?" says the bank robber "I didn't rob any bank! I wasn't even near the scene of the crime when it happened! Oh... you have my cell phone bouncing off a cell phone tower nearby? Well I have no idea why that would be officer. Somebody mustve taken my cell phone while I was asleep! (oh no the officer isn't buying it) officer! I swear it wasn't me!....1 hour later: Okay, maybe i was in the vicinity while it happened." => progression of the interrogation taking little aquiecences on the part of the bank robber until the truth comes out.

That's how criminals work."

[LastPoet]

I have a sense of Deja vu... Odd...

[Anomalocaris]

Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.

-- H. L. Mencken

No, you are a misogynist if you merely agree with some of the reasons why women hate each other.

[kılıç_mehmet]

I don't know.
I'm fairly certain that a number of women are pulling off such acts, but I am sure that a rape kit is somewhat accurate in determining cases of rape.
But well...If you go and report a rape case after a certain time where rape cannot be clinically reported and the only thing you got is your word, well...
It's understandable if people might think that you might be faking it, especially if the rapist is someone you already know.
But for random cases, I'm sure that no woman would really go through all the trouble to frame a stranger, although there are known cases of such, but justice is swift to determine any fallacies and changes in a possible victim's statement.
And rape...Well, it's some sort of a stigma. I think that the public has an emotional stance on most rape cases and is quick to judge. Like for example, when I saw a case of alleged rape of a girl who claimed to be raped by her father, I too, was quick to judge, and probably said every possible cussword in Turkish I know.
Well, after two weeks, the accusations proved to be false, and the paper who presented this story as a truth apologized to the man, and paid a sum of money, I think it was about 20.000 TL to the man for framing him.
Knowing that such cases do exist, I'd still say, no man is guilty until proven otherwise. Not the other way around.
I'm not sure about the numbers, and I'm also not convinced that whosoever presented that 66% of rape accusations are false, is either.

[RW_9]

And then on top of all these statistics, there are a huge amount of rapes that go unreported. RAINN estimates it to be over 50%. There are varying numbers depending on where you look, but it is always a staggeringly huge number.

[kılıç_mehmet]

And then on top of all these statistics, there are a huge amount of rapes that go unreported. RAINN estimates it to be over 50%. There are varying numbers depending on where you look, but it is always a staggeringly huge number.

If it is unreported, there is nothing the law can do about it.
And if they report it long after, how are they going to prove it?

[Handprint]

And then on top of all these statistics, there are a huge amount of rapes that go unreported. RAINN estimates it to be over 50%. There are varying numbers depending on where you look, but it is always a staggeringly huge number.

If it is unreported, there is nothing the law can do about it.
And if they report it long after, how are they going to prove it?

They can't, which is why rape is different than other crimes. Someone steals something from you, you can report it a bit later and be like "the thing is missing"

If someone gets murdered...and it isn't reported, they are still murdered.


But if someone is raped, the crime can be undone apparently.

[RW_9]

If it is unreported, there is nothing the law can do about it.
And if they report it long after, how are they going to prove it?

There's plenty that can be done about it. Things like rape shields help a great deal, as well as just working to combat the stigma associated with coming forward. There is a huge amount of shame and guilt that society places on victims such as saying they "asked for it," etc. Fighting against those things is imperative.

[thesummerqueen]

And then on top of all these statistics, there are a huge amount of rapes that go unreported. RAINN estimates it to be over 50%. There are varying numbers depending on where you look, but it is always a staggeringly huge number.

Thank you, I was going to mention that.

By the way, we already have a resident misogynist - Dotard.

This is a murky area. Someone may have been consensual at the beginning, then changed their mind. It might be an out-and-out rape where the victim might feel guilty in some way and thus is slow to report the crime. It could have been a drunken encounter where men get blamed because the woman didn't consent to sex, even though they were both drunk.

The problem with statistical data is it frequently doesn't divide its data sets down finely enough, has incomplete data, or people don't know how to interpret the data correctly - something this country is pretty bad at.

[kılıç_mehmet]

And then on top of all these statistics, there are a huge amount of rapes that go unreported. RAINN estimates it to be over 50%. There are varying numbers depending on where you look, but it is always a staggeringly huge number.

If it is unreported, there is nothing the law can do about it.
And if they report it long after, how are they going to prove it?

They can't, which is why rape is different than other crimes. Someone steals something from you, you can report it a bit later and be like "the thing is missing"

If someone gets murdered...and it isn't reported, they are still murdered.


But if someone is raped, the crime can be undone apparently.

Murder is an entirely different thing. Investigations are carried out differently, and evidence is gathered by different means.
The crime isn't undone, but it just can't be proven. And as I said, unless proven, everyone is innocent.

There's plenty that can be done about it. Things like rape shields help a great deal, as well as just working to combat the stigma associated with coming forward. There is a huge amount of shame and guilt that society places on victims such as saying they "asked for it," etc. Fighting against those things is imperative.

Well, those are preventive measures.
They do not solve unreported cases, but prevent unreported cases.