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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 7:07 am
(March 22, 2012 at 7:03 am)Tiberius Wrote: Still, even if you are protecting yourself, you should be arrested and investigated immediately.

Well, true, one has to investigate the circumstances of the shooting. Justice demands it.
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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 7:19 am
I'm sure if it had been a black guy shooting a white kid under the same circumstances he would have been arrested immediately.
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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 7:59 am
(March 22, 2012 at 7:19 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I'm sure if it had been a black guy shooting a white kid under the same circumstances he would have been arrested immediately.

Don't you say? What makes you so sure of this?
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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 8:59 am (This post was last modified: March 22, 2012 at 9:00 am by Violet.)
(March 22, 2012 at 6:40 am)Tiberius Wrote: Why the fuck is there a law like that in the first place???

We're America... why wouldn't we have laws like this? Thinking
(March 22, 2012 at 7:59 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Don't you say? What makes you so sure of this?

Because we're america? Tiger
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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 9:02 am
(March 22, 2012 at 8:59 am)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
(March 22, 2012 at 6:40 am)Tiberius Wrote: Why the fuck is there a law like that in the first place???

We're America... why wouldn't we have laws like this? Thinking
(March 22, 2012 at 7:59 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Don't you say? What makes you so sure of this?

Because we're america? Tiger

And what law protects the white and punishes the black?
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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 9:13 am
(March 22, 2012 at 9:02 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: And what law protects the white and punishes the black?

Racist policemen?



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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 9:42 am
The issue with the "Stand Your Ground" law is that it allows someone to use deadly force on a percieved threat. All one has to do is claim that one felt threatened, the burden of proof for these claims has been seriously relaxed. The rate of "justified homocides" has nearly tripled in the state since 2005 when the law was enacted. The law clearly protects this type of vigilanteism. Zimmermann is still a free man at this moment.
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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 9:47 am
(March 22, 2012 at 9:42 am)mediamogul Wrote: The issue with the "Stand Your Ground" law is that it allows someone to use deadly force on a percieved threat. All one has to do is claim that one felt threatened, the burden of proof for these claims has been seriously relaxed. The rate of "justified homocides" has nearly tripled in the state since 2005 when the law was enacted. The law clearly protects this type of vigilanteism. Zimmermann is still a free man at this moment.

Thankfully the police are taking a lot of heat for their inaction. When the guy phoned the police and was specifically told not to confront the guy, "standing that ground" would seem not to have been in play.
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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 9:48 am
(March 22, 2012 at 9:42 am)mediamogul Wrote: The issue with the "Stand Your Ground" law is that it allows someone to use deadly force on a percieved threat. All one has to do is claim that one felt threatened, the burden of proof for these claims has been seriously relaxed. The rate of "justified homocides" has nearly tripled in the state since 2005 when the law was enacted. The law clearly protects this type of vigilanteism. Zimmermann is still a free man at this moment.

So does tht mean, that if a racist is threatened by a black male he can go PEW PEW PEW! With impunity?

Lots of things threaten me. Like, brussel sprouts. I will go PEW PEW PEW to them the next time i see them.

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RE: Shoot First
March 22, 2012 at 9:51 am
I'm pretty sure it's probably not illegal to go "pew pew pew" anywhere...though it might get you arrested at an airport.
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