Thunderf00t vs Eric Hovind @ The Reason Rally

[frankiej]

I just watched it...

I HAVE to murder someone now.

[Napoléon]

I've seen this cunt on his own 'educational program'. Makes me fucking sick. It's a disgrace to humanity that he is allowed to spread his lies and poison the minds of children.

[Tempus]

I remember watching Eric Hovind in an interview once. As he was babbling his creationist nonsense about dinosaurs he explained that 'dino-saur' literally means 'terrible lizard' (which is actually true). Then, at the end of the interview, he plugged the DrDino website. Usually I don't bother, but I couldn't resist leaving a comment on the video which said something like: "Dinosaur means terrible lizard? Wouldn't this make Hovind 'Dr Terrible'?"

[Rev. Rye]

The fact that Eric Hovind has a lot more experience with public speaking than Thunderf00t really shows, but, that said, Hovind clearly knows absolutely nothing about the subject at hand.

[Forsaken]

To be honest Thunderf00t dug himself into a very deep philosobabble hole,

I agree.

I don't know why Thunderf00t could not rebuttal the argument about the knowledge of the universe. "99% of the unknown can contradict what we know about the 1%". Isn't this the fundamental idea of Atheism - that we don't know? If even an additional 1% percent of the 99% currently unknown becomes known, and that 1% proves the existence of god beyond any demonstrable doubt, would Atheism still exist?

And playing by the same rules, if the 99% currently unknown becomes known and it proves that God does not exist, would theists still cling to their beliefs?

The answer to both questions is a resounding NO!

BUT, our current levels of knowledge greatly diminish the probability of a god existing, so based on our current knowledge, we can safely assume that god probably does not exist.

[Skepsis]

BUT, our current levels of knowledge greatly diminish the probability of a god existing, so based on our current knowledge, we can safely assume that god probably does not exist.

When you say probably, Forsaken, I assume you mean that the chances are infinitesimally small. What we're talking about here is something that is less likely than, well, this guy existing.

I am clarifying, because I usually put tradiional monothiestic Gods in the same category as mythical beings and similarly ridiculous concepts, like any of the infinite possible unfalsifiable claims that I could make up.