Pyramids/Face of Cydonia and Tubes on Mars

[fuckass365]

I know the majority of you will just dismiss these things as humans just, "seeing what they want to see", but what if what we're seeing is really what is there? Is it possible that Mars had some form of sentient life living on it long before humans were capable of looking to the cosmos? Perhaps the face of Cydonia was an attempt to make contact, they could see us (or our more apelike ancestors) and made a structure in our likeness in hopes that we would see it. It's possible that they were not yet space faring and were wiped out long before contact was ever made.

Face:


I am aware that there have been studies done on this and people say it's just a matter of shadow play and that's certainly entirely possible and more likely.

Near the face though we have these rock formations which appear to be artificial, some have called them pyramids:


There are no other rocks like this in the area and they are only found near the "face". Could just be coincidence.

Now, these do intrigue me and I'm interested to find out what they are when we finally land on Mars. These have been called glass tubes as they appear to be translucent and have some form of supports on the inside:


Thoughts?

[FallentoReason]

I don't think Mars could ever of had life. Isn't it just too far away from the sun?

[fuckass365]

I don't think Mars could ever of had life. Isn't it just too far away from the sun?

It's really not, if we could terraform Mars it is entirely habitable by humans. It even has a roughly 24 hour day.

"Surface temperatures have been estimated from the Viking Orbiter Infrared Thermal Mapper data; this gives extremes from a warmest of 27 °C (81 °F) to −143 °C (−225 °F) at the winter polar caps."

Edit: You're also assuming that all life has to meet the exact requirements of life as we know it.

[FallentoReason]

I don't think Mars could ever of had life. Isn't it just too far away from the sun?

It's really not, if we could terraform Mars it is entirely habitable by humans. It even has a roughly 24 hour day.

"Surface temperatures have been estimated from the Viking Orbiter Infrared Thermal Mapper data; this gives extremes from a warmest of 27 °C (81 °F) to −143 °C (−225 °F) at the winter polar caps."

Ah, well there's your problem. Too cold! Or is the equator a more reasonable temperature?

Is it Mars that scientists think used to have an atmosphere but it eventually dissipated? I used to know so much about this stuff..

[Shell B]

Cydonia looks more like a sloth than a human.

I would not rule out the chance that Mars once had or even has life. I don't think the above pictures are even a hint of that, though.

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Is it Mars that scientists think used to have an atmosphere but it eventually dissipated? I used to know so much about this stuff..

Something like that, yes.

[fuckass365]

Well, Mars' soil is capable of supporting plant life so it's possible that it had some at one point. Also, it's only "too cold" in the polar ice caps. Did you see the other temperature there of around 81 degrees? Pretty comfortable. I would imagine that terraforming it and adding plant life would help warm the planet as well.

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Cydonia looks more like a sloth than a human.

Or an early hominid that they observed and attempted to replicate. ;P

[FallentoReason]

Edit: You're also assuming that all life has to meet the exact requirements of life as we know it.

Hmm yes and no. I think a planet could be somewhat more 'harsh' but I think there's only so much any 'being' could take. For example, if the temperature all around Mars is really between -143 to 27C then I find it hard to imagine a species being able to survive such different extremes.

[Jackalope]

You might want to look up the more recent, high-resolution photos of Cydonia.

[fuckass365]

Edit: You're also assuming that all life has to meet the exact requirements of life as we know it.

Hmm yes and no. I think a planet could be somewhat more 'harsh' but I think there's only so much any 'being' could take. For example, if the temperature all around Mars is really between -143 to 27C then I find it hard to imagine a species being able to survive such different extremes.

An earth like atmosphere would raise the temperatures and so would dense forests. 81 degrees is hardly unlivable.

@Cthulhu, as I stated I'm aware that there are higher res photos and that numerous studies have been done on it. It still has a few distinct features and we have no idea how old this thing is. I'm not saying I believe it, just bored and wanted to strike up a conversation.

What about the tube like structures? What's you take on that?

[FallentoReason]

An earth like atmosphere would raise the temperatures and so would dense forests. 81 degrees is hardly unlivable.

Yeah but my point is that the range in temperature is huge. You would have to combine a sort of tropical animal with the coat of a polar bear x2 to survive that. I'm no expert on animals or biology, but my gut feeling tells me the features a species would need to have would be pretty incompatible and useless whenever the temperature isn't at the relative value for that feature to be useful.

The (possibly) pre-existing atmosphere would have changed the entire climate though. So, who knows really!