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RE: The Gospel of Plutarch
May 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm
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In Harry Potter, Sirius Black was 15 when he started bullying Snape, and he lived at 12 Grimmauld Place, but dies in Chapter 35 of the 4th book
15x12x35x4=25200
25200 degrees is the exact temperature of the Star, SIRIUS B
Therefore Harry Potter's novels are a true account of the Wizard War. That took 5 minutes, I bet given months I could come up with even better "amazing" coincidences.
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RE: The Gospel of Plutarch
May 23, 2012 at 8:18 pm
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Ok, point taken, but the fundamental point has been completely missed.
There is overwhelming evidence of the similarities between 'Luke' and Plutarch. What scholars tell us about 'Luke' matches up perfectly with who Plutarch was based on his very own writings and writing style.
Plutarch was a part of Philo's 'philosophical group' that saw the OT as a bunch of allegories. Long story short, they became the gnostics and eventually got overthrown by literalists of the OT i.e. the ancestors of today's fundies.
This info is all there in the links I provided. Plutarch is so much more than vague numerology tricks. I don't care about that point at all but thought I'd share. My main point though is that Luke-Acts is written by a Pagan. Doesn't that make you wonder? Who was Jesus then, or more specifically, what was Jesus? As far as I know, Plutarch was using allegories in Luke-Acts to preserve the Nazarene teachings, or the 'Nazarene way'.
Paganism + allegorical understandings + schools of philosophers = the Gospels. Or so I think. I feel like I've only just scraped the surface. I need to do more research.
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RE: The Gospel of Plutarch
May 23, 2012 at 8:21 pm
(May 23, 2012 at 8:18 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Ok, point taken,
Yes and you decided to argue with me because your an idiot.
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RE: The Gospel of Plutarch
May 23, 2012 at 8:21 pm
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2012 at 9:05 pm by FallentoReason.)
P.s. when no Christians reply to a thread in over 10 hrs, you know you're onto something!
(May 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: In Harry Potter, Sirius Black was 15 when he started bullying Snape, and he lived at 12 Grimmauld Place, but dies in Chapter 35 of the 4th book
15x12x35x4=25200
25200 degrees is the exact temperature of the Star, SIRIUS B
Therefore Harry Potter's novels are a true account of the Wizard War. That took 5 minutes, I bet given months I could come up with even better "amazing" coincidences.
Wait, why does this conclude that said writer knew about the secrets of the cosmos? Clearly she was familiar with embedding messages in the same way as the philosopher Philo full stop.
I admit I was wrong in emphasising so much on the numbers, but I just found it whacked out that the coincidence has to do with Pagan belief.
P.s. and what was this Christian's message [J. K. Rowling]? Sirius Black, named after a sun, is the God Father of Harry Potter the 'Savior'?
I think I like your example.
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RE: The Gospel of Plutarch
May 24, 2012 at 11:39 am
Bump.
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RE: The Gospel of Plutarch
May 24, 2012 at 11:45 am
Even if the Gospel of Luke was written by or influenced by Plutarch, what does it matter? Do you get some weird sense of victory knowing that a pagan wrote the bible?
Christians don't really care that most of their book is copied from pagan religions, they won't care if one wrote it.
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RE: The Gospel of Plutarch
May 24, 2012 at 11:52 am
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(May 23, 2012 at 2:06 pm)Tobie Wrote: You could do the same sort of thing with pretty much every book, it is not proof that someone specific wrote them. Even if those numbers were put in there deliberately, it would not necessarily mean Plutarch wrote the gospel.
Textual analysis lines up too perfectly for it to be a mere coincidence. The guy was a clever writer (Plutarch) and given his philosophical background which came from Philo (who left behind his allegorical interpretation of the OT [I would link you to a database of his work but I'm on my phone]) it makes too much sense for it to not be Plutarch who penned Lux-Axe.
(May 24, 2012 at 11:45 am)Tobie Wrote: Even if the Gospel of Luke was written by or influenced by Plutarch, what does it matter? Do you get some weird sense of victory knowing that a pagan wrote the bible?
Christians don't really care that most of their book is copied from pagan religions, they won't care if one wrote it.
No, pride is the last thing on my mind ever. Can't you see the meaning of it? If this evidence is irrefutable, then that makes every last creationist a heretic. The true orthodox Christians were the ones that took the OT as symbolism because they were the authors of the Gospels. The supernatural teachings are going directly against what the Gospels teach and anyone taking sides with Paul is fighting a losing battle. Why? Because Paul himself was an enemy to the teachings of the Gospel according to Plutarch, but not only that, Paul's very own words reveal the true meaning of the Gospels because as we all know he wasn't preaching about an earthly Jesus.
Paul and the essenes/nazarenes clearly were debating over something radically different to what any Christian teaches nowdays. Jesus being a man couldn't be further from the truth of what they were arguing about. This makes so much sense with the lack of evidence for Jesus and like I said the creation account.
Is it just me or doesn't all this solve many many things about the debates that go on between theists and non-theists (and even between Christians).
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