| Poll: Regarding your "Sinful Nature" This poll is closed. |
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| Sin is no more real than Santa's workshop at the North Pole. | 24 | 60.00% | |
| Sin does indeed exist and there are eternal consequences for partaking in them. | 8 | 20.00% | |
| Sin is awesome, Lucifer has the best shit! | 8 | 20.00% | |
| Total | 40 vote(s) | 100% | |
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Sin, I don't believe in Sin.
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 (May 28, 2012 at 12:18 am)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: I am assuming you don't believe in objective morality, correct? I realize that you do you, and have made a positive claim regarding that matter, and yet have not offered evidence to support said claim. I can't speak for genkaus (he's perfectly capable of doing so for himself), but the only claim I make regarding objective morality is that I see no reason to suppose that it exists. You apparently feel otherwise. Feel feel to demonstrate it.  (May 28, 2012 at 12:27 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(May 28, 2012 at 12:18 am)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: I am assuming you don't believe in objective morality, correct? Cold-blooded murder is wrong. This is not my opinion, this is a fact of life.
Are we essentially evolved spacesuits stupidly assembled by no other reason than to reproduce more of the same stupidly assembled spacesuits that will eventually cease to exist?
 It's the devil's way now. There is no way out. You can scream and you can shout. It is too late now. Because you're not there, payin' attention. -Radiohead Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. -Matthew 5:11 (May 28, 2012 at 12:31 am)ScienceLovesGod Wrote:(May 28, 2012 at 12:27 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I realize that you do you, and have made a positive claim regarding that matter, and yet have not offered evidence to support said claim. I happen to share that opinion, but recognize it as such. Care to prove the objectivity of said opinion? (May 28, 2012 at 12:39 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(May 28, 2012 at 12:31 am)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: Cold-blooded murder is wrong. This is not my opinion, this is a fact of life. Common sense and conscience that overrides opinion.
Are we essentially evolved spacesuits stupidly assembled by no other reason than to reproduce more of the same stupidly assembled spacesuits that will eventually cease to exist?
It's the devil's way now. There is no way out. You can scream and you can shout. It is too late now. Because you're not there, payin' attention. -Radiohead Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. -Matthew 5:11 
"Common sense and conscience" - and with those words, you blow away the concept of objective morality. Good shot!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin.
May 28, 2012 at 12:59 am
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2012 at 1:02 am by Tempus.)
(May 28, 2012 at 12:45 am)ScienceLovesGod Wrote:(May 28, 2012 at 12:39 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I happen to share that opinion, but recognize it as such. Common sense is a majority opinion. Majorities have believed other races inferior to them before. What do we do when common sense dictates that one race is inferior to another? Also, as already noted, appealing to opinions of the majority doesn't prove opinions are correct.  (May 28, 2012 at 12:27 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(May 28, 2012 at 12:18 am)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: I am assuming you don't believe in objective morality, correct? Relativism, cultural relativism, emotivism, utilitarianism, etc. These philosophical theories don't provide any authority of what a person should or shouldn't do morally. One person or a group of people do not have authority over each other to say what is right or wrong. There has to be a transcending authority above humanity to give a moral law. If there is such a thing as evil, then there is such a thing as good. If there is good and evil then there has to be a moral law to differentiate the difference between the two. If there is a moral law then there has to be a moral law giver. Personal opinion can't have authority for a moral code, but the transcendent moral law giver does. Our Lord who has revealed himself through the Bible has made us in his image and written that moral code on our hearts.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
 Quote:Yet again, failing to realize what I am talking about. What you fail to grasp is that you don't know what you're talking about. (May 27, 2012 at 10:20 pm)genkaus Wrote: Wrong. What you are trying to do here is shoehorn god as an axiomatic concept whereas it is a completely derivative concept. The most basic belief about reality can only be 1) Reality exists and 2) Reality does not exist. So lets start there. I like that. How do you know that what you perceive is reality??? I know because God has made me in his image and given me a brain that can reason logically like he does and senses that can be trusted.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
(May 28, 2012 at 1:09 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Yet again, failing to realize what I am talking about. Is that your subjective view, or are you just happy to see me?
Are we essentially evolved spacesuits stupidly assembled by no other reason than to reproduce more of the same stupidly assembled spacesuits that will eventually cease to exist?
It's the devil's way now. There is no way out. You can scream and you can shout. It is too late now. Because you're not there, payin' attention. -Radiohead Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. -Matthew 5:11 |
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