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Death penalty for rapists?
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 (January 2, 2013 at 12:53 pm)A Theist Wrote:(January 1, 2013 at 12:03 pm)whateverist Wrote: I am against the death penalty primarily because I don't trust the system which decides who should receive it.Man, for a bunch of liberals who condemn hate and violence so much, you guys are bloody vicious! (and you guys think the prisoners at Gitmo have it bad)! I couldn't be that cruel....the humane thing to do would be to end the suffering of that poor violent criminal by lethal injection. Yeah, I surprise myself sometimes. I can really be one vindictive sonofabitch. You may be relieved to know I've never acted on these impulses .. so far.  RE: Death penalty for rapists?
January 4, 2013 at 4:26 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2013 at 4:27 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(January 3, 2013 at 10:17 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:(January 3, 2013 at 7:23 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Death Penalty is cheaper. Does it really? Just curious, do we have any stats for this information? Right now, as I understand it, Australia is spending billions on "life sentences" and much more on it's refugee system.... I could be wrong since my information is from news sources. "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
 (January 3, 2013 at 10:20 am)whateverist Wrote:Yeah, no kiddin'!....I'm shocked at you tolerant and peace lovin' liberals...all this condemnation of Gitmo and torture you liberals go on about,....and here you guys are, suggesting torture, dismemberment, and smashing the rapists' testicles with a hammer....whodda thunk it!....no more violent movies and video games for you guys!(January 2, 2013 at 12:53 pm)A Theist Wrote: Man, for a bunch of liberals who condemn hate and violence so much, you guys are bloody vicious! (and you guys think the prisoners at Gitmo have it bad)! I couldn't be that cruel....the humane thing to do would be to end the suffering of that poor violent criminal by lethal injection.
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
![[Image: freddy_03.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=s25.postimg.org%2Fuq1y7aapr%2Ffreddy_03.jpg) Quote: JohnDG... Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change. (January 4, 2013 at 7:04 am)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, no kiddin'!....I'm shocked at you tolerant and peace lovin' liberals...all this condemnation of Gitmo and torture you liberals go on about,....and here you guys are, suggesting torture, dismemberment, and smashing the rapists' testicles with a hammer....whodda thunk it!....no more violent movies and video games for you guys! Way ahead of you on the video games. I don't play any. Violent movies might be tougher. We're planning to go see the new Tarantino movie .. and if there is one thing you can count on is lots of violence. I'll try not to let it go to my head. Of course, I did preface all my ball peen hammer remarks on the assumption of certain guilt. As a practical matter I have the same difficulty with the death sentence so I couldn't really support either. Still in the Tarantino movie of my fantasy life, I sure would like to hand that rape victim in India (or her surviving husband) that hammer and let him even the score. (January 4, 2013 at 7:04 am)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, no kiddin'!....I'm shocked at you tolerant and peace lovin' liberals...all this condemnation of Gitmo and torture you liberals go on about,....and here you guys are, suggesting torture, dismemberment, and smashing the rapists' testicles with a hammer....whodda thunk it!....no more violent movies and video games for you guys!  So says the guy who won't give up his guns?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
 RE: Death penalty for rapists?
January 4, 2013 at 9:20 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2013 at 9:21 am by Something completely different.)
(January 4, 2013 at 4:26 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Does it really? http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty http://www.economist.com/node/13279051 Court cases in a democracy, where there is a fair justice system, are alway very expensive. We could of course change into a dictatorship, abandone our fair justice systems and then reinterduce the deathpenalty as a costeffective thing without a fair trial. Which would be bollocks. RE: Death penalty for rapists?
January 4, 2013 at 9:24 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2013 at 9:34 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(January 4, 2013 at 9:20 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:(January 4, 2013 at 4:26 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Does it really? Thankyou, I'm a bit time poor at the moment.  No one is assuming that there won't be a "fair trial" and due process. I am focusing on keeping said convicted alive for 20+ years as opposed to a death penalty. "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
One small correction to the OP...
The "rape every 20 minutes" statistic is actually allowing for the frankly woeful under reporting of rape that India has. Nearly every guidebook I have read has outright stated that India is unsafe to travel in for women unless you wish to be subject to sexual harassment and the stories of rape and harassment victims are nearly universal. Far more so than in the UK... The UK actually posts more rape than India, a country of 60 million posting higher stats than the country of 1.2 billion? There is either something wrong with the UK or there is a massive under report rape. A quick check and you quickly realise that even if India had the same rape rates as the UK (A country with a 1 in 3 report rate) the current rape reports would be around 1% of the total rapes. If we assume the incidence of rape is the same in India as it is in the UK you would have roughly a million rapes a year (which is a lot higher than the 1 in 20 minutes stat). These are purely reported rapes and in India a lot of rapes are simply ignored. (I was at one of the protests providing medical coverage) The city of Delhi should have around 15,000 rapes. It only reports 600... That isn't "good" that's "women aren't getting help". Oh and in India marital rape is legal. If you marry someone you give consent at all times. You can be "legally" raped by your husband.
What difference does it make to be an atheist of 999,999 gods rather than a 1,000,000?
A Million Gods RE: Death penalty for rapists?
January 4, 2013 at 9:38 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2013 at 9:40 am by Something completely different.)
Thank you for your post!
I just reread my source a rape is reported to the police every 20 minutes in India. The unreported number is probably higher. (January 4, 2013 at 9:24 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Thankyou, I'm a bit time poor at the moment. Well, the debate on the financial side should not be held from my point of view. Because no one has the right to put a value on a human life. The question should be if a community has the right to kill one of it`s members, in it`s name. And there I clearly say no. |
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