Believing in creationism is a sin

[Whateverist]

Miracles are real, they do not conflict with science. There is no scientific study that exists anywhere in any place that can disprove miracles.

That is true. One can any more disprove a miracle than they can attribute it to a particular god or to any god whatsoever. Just because miracles are not reproducible in the laboratory does not mean they didn't happen some time in the past.

Of course there is no good reason to believe any miracles have happened so far which can't be explained in natural terms. But in case they have happened, neither can we be sure which god deserves attribution.

[Godscreated]

Yes I do have an omniscient God, that is not the case for the people of the past or today. Your statement lacks an kind of understanding.

Oh, so you're saying that the god that spoke to Moses isn't the same god that christians worship today? Or that god gained his omniscience sometime after the time of Moses, potentially making the commandments less than perfect? Is that what you're saying, or is it you that has the lack of understanding here?

My statement lacks complete understanding, I should have read closer what I wrote. I meant the people were not omniscient then or now, they would have trouble understanding. If you think I'm crazy I do not blame you.

[Nerd]

It appears that there is common misconception that some people have on the meaning of a scientific theory. For something to become a theory it must have lots of evidence so when I refer to the theory of evolution I am saying that it has been repeatedly proven and well tested. Just compare definitions of a scientific theory vs a non-scientific theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
You can see that it has a different meaning.
The closest word in science that has the closest meaning to the theory with a non-scientific context is hypothesis. God is a hypothesis that is being proven wrong as more and more studies are being published that show that there is no god. Even with the understanding of the word theory when referring to a scientific context one may ask why evolution is not a law this page does a very good job explaining it http://www.evolutionfaq.com/faq/why-isnt...idered-law

[FragileTag]

They are not lying but they are being wrong.

[Endo]

Is it lying if they actually believe it? Creationists earnestly argue they are correct.

If find it impossible to belive that someone is realy dumb enough to belive that the earth is ~6000 years old and that we started with 2 people and have been inbreeding since.
Also since Adam and Eve only had 2 brothers that means they had sex with there mom ewwww.

The 6000 year old earth belief was started when one man added up all the years between generations in the Bible. I personally do not take this seriously, and the Bible never really gives any statement as to how old the Earth is. So, your argument is based on something a fringe theologian said which has been contested many times in the Christian religion.

And Adam and Eve had more than just two kids. One of those two killed the other, then he left his family to wander. So reproduction was left up to all the other children, who were both male and female. The Bible does not say how they reproduced, but it is assumed in polite society that the brothers took the sisters as their wives.

[KichigaiNeko]

Yes Endo ...we know this


And?

[Cyberman]

The point, Endo, is that the bible is so poorly and ambiguously written that anyone can read into it whatever they want to see. You hit uopn the problem yourself when you mentioned things that the book doesn't say; it's left up to the reader to impose their own interpretation into the text, up to a maximum of whatever scientific knowledge is current at the time. For instance, the story talks of Yahweh creating the world and the heavens, but doesn't say anything about how it did this. At one time it was enough to chalk it up to magic and be done with it; now we know about Big Bang cosmology and quantum fluctuations etc, which all gets shoehorned into the story and becomes proof of biblical wisdom. Like all sleight of hand, it entertains the sceptic, fools the gullible and swells the coffers.