Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian

[downbeatplumb]

Something tells me you wouldn't wait to form your belief about whether or not you were in love until after you'd gotten the results of any blood samples. We believe many things for which we have nbo evidence and act on many more beliefs of which we're usually not even aware. Very rarely do we bother to ask for evidence.

True, but my point was that crude language is not all we have.
It is overly simplistic to just say "love eh, one of life's mystery's"

[Love]

Thank you for the welcomes and "Kudos"!

New forum HERE. I will endeavour to answer all of the questions asked of me.

[Edwardo Piet]

Welcome.

Hume would of course agree with you that the emotion of love doesn't require reason, as would Schopenhauer. Passion and compassion are at least ultimately separate from reason, in their opinions.

That is also my current opinion.

I must admit that I did wonder if you were a Poe when I saw your name and how everything you posted seemed rational to me, until you mentioned how you used to believe you "knew the truth" about religion when you were an atheist, and how when you became christian you felt the sense of an "evil presence" leaving you. Although I could imagine an overly rationalistic view of the world leading to nihilistic beliefs (or lack thereof) that lead you to believing - incorrectly in my current opinion - that this must be the case without embracing theism.

I can imagine that because I've experienced that myself. But I simply focus more on empiricism now, although I of course still don't reject rationalistic completely, I am not rationalistic or overly reductionistic about matters of feelings, emotions, passions, moods and the personality as a whole. I am now far more empirical, phenomenological and experience-based regarding those subjects.

[Love]

Welcome.

Hume would of course agree with you that the emotion of love doesn't require reason, as would Schopenhauer. Passion and compassion are at least ultimately separate from reason, in their opinions.

That is also my current opinion.

I must admit that I did wonder if you were a Poe when I saw your name and how everything you posted seemed rational to me, until you mentioned how you used to believe you "knew the truth" about religion when you were an atheist, and how when you became christian you felt the sense of an "evil presence" leaving you. Although I could imagine an overly rationalistic view of the world leading to nihilistic beliefs (or lack thereof) that lead you to believing - incorrectly in my current opinion - that this must be the case without embracing theism.

I can imagine that because I've experienced that myself. But I simply focus more on empiricism now, although I of course still don't reject rationalistic completely, I am not rationalistic or overly reductionistic about matters of feelings, emotions, passions, moods and the personality as a whole. I am now far more empirical, phenomenological and experience-based regarding those subjects.

Hello,

Cheers.

[Angrboda]

Welcome.

[Ryantology]

Welcome to the forum.

Forgive my sounding rude but this conversion story comes across as calculated and false. If you were an atheist, then you could not have been an atheist who places much value in rationality, reason, or logic if a single event made you discard all of that, arbitrarily pick a deity, and take at face value all of the unoriginal and baseless assertions it makes. I suspect very strongly that you have always been a Christian and that you are simply more aware of atheist viewpoints than most. If your story is true, it is very sad and regrettable.

If that sounds mean and unfair, well, we have a fair number of Christians here and they make the same claim in the hopes that it somehow legitimizes their 'present' belief system.

[KichigaiNeko]

I too am suspicious of your story (I'm a suspicious biatch) ...I read it as proof that your mind will lie to you but hey....

[Fruity]

Love wrote:

Yes, I am aware of this bizarre online phenomenon of established forum members attacking new members, which in actuality constitues a form of bullying.

Whoa! I place bets on two weeks and we'll be left loveless! Anyone? Just kidding...

Three weeks! Anyone?

Now I'm really kidding. No I'm not. Ok, I am.

Welcome

[fr0d0]

Ello luv.

I assume that you would consider yourself an independent/non denominational. Care to plant your flag anywhere? Would you class yourself non trinitarian? I assume this topo be the case given your stance on Jesus. apologies if you've answered this elsewhere.

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thesummerqueen dismissing mental wanking... now there's self denial :)

[thesummerqueen]

The mental wanking had to be about something that ‘turns me on' frods, just like real masturbation. That doesn't mean it's worth anything more than self-gratification in either case.