Finally found the evidence.

[frankiej]

Howdy!

[goodnews]

I find this most interesting, may I ask what the false evidence was, and this misunderstood experience ? I am given the impresion from your thread you were religious, prehaps went to church. I find it hard to believe that you trully believed in these un- scriptural doctrins preached with vanity in the first place , because if you did not , like so many do, your leaving this corupt system, just mite be more significant than you think, I dont believe one doctrin preached by "christiandom" as none of them is scriptual , dont get me wrong I am no preacher and dont fool myself I can make one soul believe in God, I just dont think a leopard can change its spots.

[Creed of Heresy]

Goodnews: You're dangerously close to if not outright in the middle of "no true scotsman" territory.

There's a reason there's so many doctrines of Christianity; because the thing is so poorly written and so contradictory that you have to choose Option A or Option B when considering different passages, and depending on which option you choose will dictate which sect you are a part of. You can pretend to be "unaligned" but the truth is if I grilled you on the excessively numerous [to the point of being unworthy of any further attention in any other case but for some reason mass-delusion gets a free pass; go figure] deviations and contradictions and where you stand on each of them, I would be able to pin you down for one of the hundreds of sects of Christianity, and no matter how much you might kick and scream about how you don't fit the label, you would fit it to a T...which is fitting, given your fairy tale's incredibly cliche "hero's death" scene when he got nailed to a T himself...

As for TGWAQ: Welcome to the forum. I've experienced something similar, though I didn't linger at church for very long after I dropped my faith.

[goodnews]

Oh really, you would like to put me in a box, but you can not, because I believe the Gospel of Good News, and as you do not have a clue what it is, you can neither box or label me, but I know which box you are in, and its the box full of stooped vain men who follow other stooped vain men who are following more stooped vain men ! I stand alone and follow The Son of God, now go wallow in your own vain deceit, or better still be an upright man, put a stop to your foolishness, and humble yourself before the LORD.

[Minimalist]

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask God,

I prefer Google. It answers.

[Creed of Heresy]

"Vain"...you keep using that word. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Humble yourself before my COCK. See? I can capitalize words to make them seem more emphatic and important, too, but unlike your lord [notice the lack of capitals] I can prove the existence of my COCK. Can you prove the existence of your lord?

By the way, you're already in a box. You're in a box of Evangelism, nothing more. You're not unique, you're not alone, there's several million people just like you, and you follow a RELIGION, a MAN MADE religion, you follow the words of men, the teachings of men, and pretend its divinity, yet when called upon for proof, you can provide none. I wallow in nothing more than self-awareness, but you wallow in self-deceit...far the worse of the two. There is no "lord" save the one you make for yourself. Now go and bow down, pitiful slave, and curb your tongue, for I have yet to hear an edict from your master that proclaims you have a right to speak in his stead and therefore have no need to accept what you say as fact. If man is so unworthy than how dare you speak of your master as if you have any right to make any proclamation of any kind on this behalf? Show some of that humility you claim and shut the fuck up.

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By the way, speaking of stooping, it's interesting how your position of prayer is to bend down and get on your knees...you don't just stoop, you outright kneel. Honestly, you're a disgrace to the human species, you're one of these idiots that thinks some guy died and then came back to life and floated into the sky.

Do tell me, if Jesus floated into the sky, because the sky is where heaven is, how come, despite us having flown not just into the sky but beyond into space, have we seen no heaven, hmm? Where EXACTLY did Jesus go after floating into the sky? And why was him floating into the sky necessary if he just vanished after a certain height?

Ockham's Razor: The simplest explanation is best, and the simplest explanation is: None of it happened. Deal with it. I sure did a long time ago. It's utterly contemptuous to me, who has long since forsaken the fairy tale myths, to see grown men still mindlessly slaving away at a belief system without justification or proof. If you had even a shred of weight to your words via some form of tangible evidence I might lend you some credence and not consider your words to be condescending drivel, but since you don't, then don't you fucking talk down to me like you're privvy to some cosmic body of knowledge that the rest of us "vain men" are not, because you aren't, and if you think you are, you're a self-righteous, self-deluded, self-important twat whose only contributions to anything will amount to taking up a spot in a graveyard some day, you insignificant self-deprecating shit.

[goodnews]

Let a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

[Minimalist]

Let a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

May your anus meet the cock of a horny bishop without a tube of KY Jelly in sight.

[smax]

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not, and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. James 1:5-6

Just another contradiction in scripture. Observe:

Galatians 1:11-16
I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it. I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers. But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being.

Faith is something preached in the bible, but very few of the characters within it base their belief in god on it. The main characters in the Bible are almost all people who are alleged to have benefitted from divine intervention.

Hmmmmm.........

[goodnews]

Because you understand something incorrectly, does not make it a contradiction ????? All TRANSLATIONS of the scriptures have faults ???? It is foolishness to discredit the original script because men made mistakes { some intentional } in later translations ??? If you are truthfull and not biased, you would seek to discredit the volume of Hebrew and Greek scriptures, as so many others have tried and failed. ps: The above translation is correct and so is your assumption, FAITH is a gift from God which believers HOPE for . "christiandom" does not teach this, but this is not a contradiction of scripture, but a contradiction of men .