Genesis Creation vs. Darwin's Macroevolution Myth

[Ryantology]

The Bible did not mention God poofing microbes into existence only because the people who invented the Genesis myth had no idea that microbes existed. They also thought the earth existed specifically before the sun, because they had no idea how that actually works, either. Which is why you really have to be dense to believe that the Bible explicitly had anything relevant to say about the origins of the universe. Genesis is just one of ten thousand cartoonishly stupid fictional accounts of what ignorant ancients that was responsible for the world around them and has not a single shred more credibility than any other.

[Esquilax]

Well, the theory of evolution is scientifically valid, there's no question about that, it does make sense. But for Creationists such myself, that is of no concern to me because I believe in the concept of miracles, it is not inconsistent for a person who believes that Moses parted the red sea, or the burning bush or the Christ cures the leper, raises the dead etc. etc. to believe that God created humans directly. So the theory of evolution is the only valid conclusion provided that you reject all scriptural evidences and beliefs. So in the end, it all goes back to religious/non-religious beliefs, it's a theological issue for me first and foremost.

So, to put it a much simpler way: the facts don't matter to you, because magic!

Well, that's tantamount to throwing in the towel. That's admitting defeat: you don't have actual evidence, so you're resorting to unverified claims of fairy dust that you could never possibly hope to demonstrate. You're the equivalent of the kid playing imaginary games on the playground shouting that he has an "everything-proof shield" in whatever battle his friends are imagining.

To be honest, you're starting to sound like a parody of a theist.

[little_monkey]

Well, the theory of evolution is scientifically valid, there's no question about that, it does make sense. But for Creationists such myself, that is of no concern to me because I believe in the concept of miracles, it is not inconsistent for a person who believes that Moses parted the red sea, or the burning bush or the Christ cures the leper, raises the dead etc. etc. to believe that God created humans directly. So the theory of evolution is the only valid conclusion provided that you reject all scriptural evidences and beliefs. So in the end, it all goes back to religious/non-religious beliefs, it's a theological issue for me first and foremost.

Then how do you explain so much resistance especially by Christians to Evolution? Is it a question of lack of education ( ignorance)?

[Esquilax]

Then how do you explain so much resistance especially by Christians to Evolution? Is it a question of lack of education ( ignorance)?

It's precisely what he said in his initial post: evolution is a perfectly valid scientific theory, but to him and the people like him, the actual demonstrable facts don't matter as much as what he would prefer to be the truth, and since reality won't reshape itself around his petulant theological whims, he's taken to just ignoring it. Because magic works as an excuse for anything, and god is nothing but magic, the facts don't matter; what matters is just how much faith you can cram into the areas of ignorance these creatards won't allow themselves to fill with knowledge.

[KichigaiNeko]

You know, all this talk about a " magic sky-daddy" is closer to Wicca/ Paganism to the point that I am starting to understand that the abrahamic religions are just continuing the mythical "childish wishful thinking" humans have always had.

Much prefer the use of science to understand this world.

[Angrboda]

EARTH -to- ALTER2EGO:

I notice that in your picture you have blank spots where your eyes should be. Are you a zombie created by Voodoo? My mom told me never to fuck the undead.

[Cyberman]

Well, none so blind and all that...

[ideologue08]

Well, the theory of evolution is scientifically valid, there's no question about that, it does make sense. But for Creationists such myself, that is of no concern to me because I believe in the concept of miracles, it is not inconsistent for a person who believes that Moses parted the red sea, or the burning bush or the Christ cures the leper, raises the dead etc. etc. to believe that God created humans directly. So the theory of evolution is the only valid conclusion provided that you reject all scriptural evidences and beliefs. So in the end, it all goes back to religious/non-religious beliefs, it's a theological issue for me first and foremost.

So, to put it a much simpler way: the facts don't matter to you, because magic!

Well, that's tantamount to throwing in the towel. That's admitting defeat: you don't have actual evidence, so you're resorting to unverified claims of fairy dust that you could never possibly hope to demonstrate. You're the equivalent of the kid playing imaginary games on the playground shouting that he has an "everything-proof shield" in whatever battle his friends are imagining.

To be honest, you're starting to sound like a parody of a theist.

Pretty much yeah. Like I said, if I didn't believe in my religion then there's no question I would accept the theory of evolution, it has an astronomical amount of evidence. Nonetheless, for me, I am more convinced that my religion is true than the evidences that back up evolution ergo I'm a Creationist I know I might sound strange, but that's because I'm a stranger (at least on this forum) and I believe in a strange religion...so glad tidings to the strangers!

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Then how do you explain so much resistance especially by Christians to Evolution? Is it a question of lack of education ( ignorance)?

I'm not Christian so I don't know, I'm guessing evolution isn't compatible with the Bible? I don't know what you mean resistance, you can't really resist a particular teaching, Evolution is taught pretty much everywhere. And even if it wasn't, there are an awful lot of websites that discuss it.

[Whateverist]

Like I said, if I didn't believe in my religion then there's no question I would accept the theory of evolution, it has an astronomical amount of evidence. Nonetheless, for me, I am more convinced that my religion is true than the evidences that back up evolution ergo I'm a Creationist I know I might sound strange, but that's because I'm a stranger (at least on this forum) and I believe in a strange religion...

In essence the creation you believe in is compatible with believing that both the origin of life and its continuing evolution are both entirely natural and at the same time an expression of God's will. It's like attaching intention to that which transpires naturally. Would history have unfolded as it has, would biological forms have developed or the laws of physics be as we find them were it not God's will? That is a thoroughly untestable hypothesis. So you may safely avail yourself of science without fear of coming into conflicts with your religious beliefs. Well played sir!

[Esquilax]

Pretty much yeah. Like I said, if I didn't believe in my religion then there's no question I would accept the theory of evolution, it has an astronomical amount of evidence. Nonetheless, for me, I am more convinced that my religion is true than the evidences that back up evolution ergo I'm a Creationist I know I might sound strange, but that's because I'm a stranger (at least on this forum) and I believe in a strange religion...so glad tidings to the strangers!

I might disagree with your view, but I can appreciate the honesty behind your expression of it; too often creationists try to cloak their beliefs in pseudoscience and half truths. I'm much more likely to at least respect the theist that'll forgo the illusory reasons and admit to their faith.

... But you're still wrong.