Is a dead baby enough of a wake up call?

[That guy who asked questions]

I think this explains itself...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio...e/2359469/

[Gilgamesh]

There is no wake up call for minds so compromised by religious doctrine. The only way for it to end is for the infected to die off.

[Minimalist]

"We believe in divine healing, that Jesus shed blood for our healing and that he died on the cross to break the devil's power," Herbert Schaible, 44, told Philadelphia homicide detectives after their ninth child, Brandon, died in April. Medicine, he said, "is against our religious beliefs."

Just another example of the vileness which is religion. Granted, these two fuckers are extreme examples. Of course, what does it say about the judge who bought their horseshit the first time?

[Dragonetti]

Religion at its finest.

[Minimalist]

Amen.

[Colanth]

"We believe in divine healing, that Jesus shed blood for our healing and that he died on the cross to break the devil's power," Herbert Schaible, 44, told Philadelphia homicide detectives after their ninth child, Brandon, died in April. Medicine, he said, "is against our religious beliefs."

Just another example of the vileness which is religion. Granted, these two fuckers are extreme examples. Of course, what does it say about the judge who bought their horseshit the first time?

The horseshit the first time was that they wouldn't do it again. This time they say that, although they now know the child can die, they still won't seek medical advice. That's no longer reckless disregard (manslaughter), it's a planned act (murder).

The law can't do anything until parents like this lose a child, or have one so sick that the authorities feel that they can't ignore the situation. (But they have to learn about it to do something about it.) They can't take the kids away solely because "people of that Church" may not seek medical care if one of their children contracts a possibly fatal illness. Thought crime isn't illegal.

And if the parents play the "we sincerely believed the child would live, but we'll go to a doctor next time" card, many judges will err on the side of freedom of religion.

It's disgusting. They should have gone to prison the first time and the kids should have been adopted out - to people who "believe in" medicine.

[Jackalope]

It's about fucking time that we end the undeserved privilege enjoyed by those that resort to faith healing and put lives of those in their care in jeopardy.

I'm all for freedom of religious practice, but that support ends at the point where people who can't legally consent to belong to their happy fucking cult are harmed.

When I was in high school in the early 1980's, there was a family that lived a few blocks away. They had two children - I had grown up and gone to school with the younger son since grade school. Their daughter was a little older. The parents were "Christian Scientists". The daughter came down with pneumonia, and her parents refused to allow her to be treated. She was 17 when she died.

The son (who did not appear to share his parents religious convictions) was understandably very angry with his parents. Some time later, he killed both of them. He was released from prison about a year ago.

Three dead, and another life in shambles, all for want of an antibiotic treatment.

[Violet]

Funny... I'd have said the killing was entirely justified What's a justified killing in law called?

[Jackalope]

Funny... I'd have said the killing was entirely justified What's a justified killing in law called?

Well... he might have had the opportunity to argue that angle at trial... had he not gone to great lengths to cover it up. Don't think the jury would have bought it. At it turned out, he pled guilty and got two concurrent life sentences, out in 27(?) for good behavior.

[Ryantology]

Babies only matter when they are still in utero.