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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 7:06 pm
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(June 1, 2013 at 6:35 am)dazzn Wrote: Others post worse. Like a certain poster below (I'll come to him later).
Oh, I don't disagree that they do. But then, they usually focus similar questions/thoughts/topics into a couple of threads, instead of every slight nuance of difference having its own thread.
And they usually have more sentences in the first post
Quote:Also, bemoan my contradictory nature if you will. If you presume that humans are never contradictory, then this is your fault. People contradict all the time, and it's seen as normal since we aren't perfect lol...
I've no sorrow over the matter, let alone dishonest sorrow. I'll mock your word choice aplenty, just as I've done your insistance upon being contradictory to your own stated beliefs (it's called hypocrisy).
Now... if we're talking about what things are typically seen as: hypocrisy is seen as a negative in a person, regardless of whether it be 'normal' or not... it is frowned upon. Me, I'm not one to formulate my opinions of value upon that which is commonly believed, and if I was you: I really wouldn't be looking to commonality as my defense of hypocrisy, seeing as the typical hypocrite doesn't realize that their actions contradict their message.
Upon realizing self-hypocrisy... usually one of two things happens. The first, and most likely, is that the person ceases putting their message forward in its current state. The second, and more difficult, is that the person changes their behavior so as to make their message correct. To knowingly engage in self-hypocrisy? That's either a person being dishonest, a person justifying their non-application to their message, or the person just plainly being stupid.
In your case, I'm inclined to believe that it is the last of those from which you suffer the most
(June 1, 2013 at 5:15 pm)catfish Wrote: You are anything but contradictory. You are one of the most consistent posters I've seen and hardly ever contradict yourself. If it really was your nature, you'd have contradicted yourself by now. Besides, seeing how most threads were started by you, I'd say you were generally contradicting accepted truths, and admitting your contradictory nature makes everyone assume you're lying to attempt to be contradictory while really just being a consistent (fill in the blank here)....
That's a fascinating idea. My only contention is that he's contradicting logic... if he's okay with what that means: we can move on from logical argument
But all of it was good observation, Catfish. Were only we all so consistent
(June 1, 2013 at 6:57 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 1, 2013 at 5:42 pm)dazzn Wrote: So if racial differences are proven, then slavery comes back. gotcha! Er...no. Not what I said at all. Racial differences have been proven, but that doesn't mean people of different races are any less or more human. Slavery is an affront to humanity itself.
How do you feel about nonhuman slaves?
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 7:30 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 6:57 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 1, 2013 at 5:42 pm)dazzn Wrote: So if racial differences are proven, then slavery comes back. gotcha! Er...no. Not what I said at all. Racial differences have been proven, but that doesn't mean people of different races are any less or more human. Slavery is an affront to humanity itself.
Quote:Who says it's wrong to hit somebody? You?
I don't think violence solves much. It should be used in self-defense only.
No, if it's proven that any race is genetically inferior to another, then this makes slavery's reintroduction feasible. Morals are merely transitory, all know.
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 7:45 pm
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How would you prove that a race is categorically inferior to another?
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 7:49 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 7:45 pm)Ryantology Wrote: How would you prove that a race is categorically inferior to another?
By successfully enslaving them!
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 8:35 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 7:45 pm)Ryantology Wrote: How would you prove that a race is categorically inferior to another?
Erm.. scientific tests, research and inductive reasoning?
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 8:40 pm
(May 31, 2013 at 6:08 am)The OP Wrote: Yet more unmitigated bullshit.
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 9:08 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 7:30 pm)dazzn Wrote: No, if it's proven that any race is genetically inferior to another, then this makes slavery's reintroduction feasible. Morals are merely transitory, all know. What does "genetically inferior" mean to you exactly?
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 10:04 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 9:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 1, 2013 at 7:30 pm)dazzn Wrote: No, if it's proven that any race is genetically inferior to another, then this makes slavery's reintroduction feasible. Morals are merely transitory, all know. What does "genetically inferior" mean to you exactly?
Lack of intelligence and/or physical capabilities.
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 10:08 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 10:04 pm)dazzn Wrote: (June 1, 2013 at 9:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: What does "genetically inferior" mean to you exactly?
Lack of intelligence and/or physical capabilities.
A sure sign of both is a contradictory nature and "little man syndrome".
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RE: Aspects of modern "morals" that don't make sense
June 1, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Quote:Anti-racism - IMO, slavery is normal and legitimate, and I suspect most believe this also (secretly).
No, I don't. Slavery causes unnecessary suffering and tends to lead to either you or your offspring being killed in an uprising. It is also not an economically superiour model for a society, so it has neither moral (which I assume you find relative) or economic value. It is also not normal in modern society, unless you live in a 3rd world country or the criminal underworld.
Quote:Anti-sexism - Who says it's wrong for a man to hit/physically strike a woman? Who defines this "wrong" beyond what society says?
No one, but if you are going to live in society you either follow its rules or your suffer its consequences. If you don't like that, move to a society that believes morality is relative or at least thinks what you find acceptable, acceptable.
However, I would argue that it is wrong and impractical, in that you cause unnecessary suffering and hatred, which leads to eventual consequences (divorce and having most your money taken, sending to jail for domestic violence/assault, the assaulted woman coming back and putting a knife to your throat after removing your balls... stuff like that) and has no practical use outside of self-defense.
Quote:Anti-classism - Look, the poor are where they are for a reason, since they lack the genetics to prosper.
You know nothing about economics, which seems to be unsurprising given your lack of understanding of moral principles, practical behaviour and action/reaction consequences.
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