Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.

[ronedee]

They weren't atheist.
You complain about people not reading what you say but good grief. Take your own advice.

Sorry if I confused you dear! Just trying to gather answers to questions about different aspects of atheism.

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Are you Geek?

*grins* Yep. I'm a computer geek. And science freak.

Apple?

[max-greece]

What were atheists... before they were atheists?

And what defining moment makes one an instant atheist?

Also, can a person say they are something (anything) and not act like it?

Does an atheist get to choose which group, or individual that they want to be associated with... even though they both act the same way?

Just sayin'

Babies.
Conciousness.
Yes.
I don't understand the question, but probably yes - atheists have personal freedom to choose what they want.

[ronedee]

What were atheists... before they were atheists?

And what defining moment makes one an instant atheist?

Also, can a person say they are something (anything) and not act like it?

Does an atheist get to choose which group, or individual that they want to be associated with... even though they both act the same way?

Just sayin'

Babies.
Conciousness.
Yes.
I don't understand the question, but probably yes - atheists have personal freedom to choose what they want.

Shouldn't, "YMMV" be there somewhere?

[Savannahw]

You didn't confuse me.
You claimed that Huns, mongrols, Germanic, and roman society's were atheistic.
They had gods. They weren't godless. Just because they didn't worship your one path doesn't make an atheistic society.

[Rahul]

Apple?

No, not really. My first computer was an Apple IIe. But I'm primarily a Windows guy with a lot of experience and continuing interest in Linux.

In an IT shop it's always fun for Apple guys and Windows guys to bash on each other.

[Cato]

well..... if you want to press the issue here...for conversation sake?

What were atheists... before they were atheists?

Unborn is your safest argument here; otherwise, you have to account for why children are wrapped in bullshit until such time they can think for themselves.

And what defining moment makes one an instant atheist?

Birth. You don't have an argument, this moment in time is pre-indoctrination.

Also, can a person say they are something (anything) and not act like it?

Philosophically, this is better answered by those with experience; namely, priests that fuck kids under their charge. How does one have sex with underage boys and pretend to give spiritual guidance to the flock? The amusing part to me is that the flock doesn't know any better.

Does an atheist get to choose which group, or individual that they want to be associated with... even though they both act the same way?

All of a sudden 'free will' becomes a bitch. How did that happen?

Just sayin'

Trying to be cool by invoking the hideous and meaningless expression 'just sayin' betrays how out of touch you are.

[max-greece]

Babies.
Conciousness.
Yes.
I don't understand the question, but probably yes - atheists have personal freedom to choose what they want.

Shouldn't, "YMMV" be there somewhere?

In response to which question? The defining moment question? Possibly.

Did you always have faith or did you suddenly get it. So many people in America seem to suddenly get faith and are "born again." For them this appears to be a magnificent awakening.

It can be exactly the same for an atheist. The best analogy I can come up with would be the feeling I imagine a slave got when his chains were finally broken. I called that moment conciousness.

I know its probably totally alien to you but for many Atheists the idea of God is an anathema. The concept is actually repugnant. In some ways more for Jesus than for any other aspect.

I don't want to belabour that point as it is obviously the very things you believe in that horrify me. Difficult to communicate such things without someone getting really upset.

[ronedee]

Apple?

No, not really. My first computer was an Apple IIe. But I'm primarily a Windows guy with a lot of experience and continuing interest in Linux.

In an IT shop it's always fun for Apple guys and Windows guys to bash on each other.

Actually they are getting pretty close now!

....it aint like the old days! I'd have an MIS guy wallowing over my windows box for hours... I'd walk in after awhile w/ my coffee and say: "You know how to fix that baby?" He would slowly look up and over the monitor... "Empty that case out and stuff a Mac in there."

...then you'd hear him under his breath "#*%@! apples suck". LOL!

[Rahul]

Actually they are getting pretty close now!

....it aint like the old days! I'd have an MIS guy wallowing over my windows box for hours... I'd walk in after awhile w/ my coffee and say: "You know how to fix that baby?" He would slowly look up and over the monitor... "Empty that case out and stuff a Mac in there."

...then you'd hear him under his breath "#*%@! apples suck". LOL!

The running joke is with Windows, well it breaks a lot. But you can fix it.

Apples don't break very often. But when they do you're totally fucked.

[Mystical]

Sorry if I confused you dear!

Its quotes like this that lead me to believe you were a woman up until recently. Being called dear by some dude named Ron is a Tad bit confusing, come to think of it; considering your avatar is a woman. Just wondering if you call all the girls dear at the prison, or if you're just playing an old lady persona for our benefit?