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Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
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 (August 15, 2013 at 12:07 pm)Godschild Wrote: I most definitely know the reality of Christ, you however reject His reality and have so far chosen punishment. There is no evidence that Jesus Christ ever even existed. You accept Christ and your God entirely on faith, and faith is not a pathway to truth.  (August 16, 2013 at 11:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: GC, if you believe it's necessary to believe in a higher power, what would you do if a god that was undeniably a deity came to you and demonstrated his power? Would you be inclined to start worshiping him?Nope, he'd start pleasing the almighty shaft until those big omnipotent balls start slapping him in the chin. I'm pretty sure if God asks him to do that, he has to. Luckily for GC, he wouldn't have to pretend to like it too.  (August 16, 2013 at 11:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: GC, if you believe it's necessary to believe in a higher power, what would you do if a god that was undeniably a deity came to you and demonstrated his power? Would you be inclined to start worshiping him? Necessary for who?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (August 17, 2013 at 12:22 am)Godschild Wrote:(August 16, 2013 at 11:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: GC, if you believe it's necessary to believe in a higher power, what would you do if a god that was undeniably a deity came to you and demonstrated his power? Would you be inclined to start worshiping him? ...never mind. ![[Image: 10314461_875206779161622_3907189760171701548_n.jpg]](https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10314461_875206779161622_3907189760171701548_n.jpg)
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 17, 2013 at 12:26 am
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2013 at 12:28 am by Godscreated.)
(August 16, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote:(August 15, 2013 at 12:07 pm)Godschild Wrote: I most definitely know the reality of Christ, you however reject His reality and have so far chosen punishment. Shows how little you know, There's more written about Christ than many leaders of His time and you accept them, why, because you haven't gained enough knowledge to see truth.  GC(August 17, 2013 at 12:24 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote:(August 17, 2013 at 12:22 am)Godschild Wrote: Necessary for who? Good! GC(August 16, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:(August 16, 2013 at 11:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: GC, if you believe it's necessary to believe in a higher power, what would you do if a god that was undeniably a deity came to you and demonstrated his power? Would you be inclined to start worshiping him?Nope, he'd start pleasing the almighty shaft until those big omnipotent balls start slapping him in the chin. I'm pretty sure if God asks him to do that, he has to. Luckily for GC, he wouldn't have to pretend to like it too. This the kind of stuff you teach that little boy? GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(August 17, 2013 at 12:26 am)Godschild Wrote:(August 16, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote: There is no evidence that Jesus Christ ever even existed. You accept Christ and your God entirely on faith, and faith is not a pathway to truth. I don't see how ignoring my question does anyone any good.
 (August 17, 2013 at 12:26 am)Godschild Wrote:(August 16, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote: There is no evidence that Jesus Christ ever even existed. You accept Christ and your God entirely on faith, and faith is not a pathway to truth. Unlike "many leaders of the time", there is NOTHING written about "Jesus" during the time he supposedly lived. No one mentions him in any letter, document or record. Why would that be? Also, no one makes outrageous claims regarding "leaders of the time". "Jesus" is said to have walked on water, healed the sick with a touch of his hand and risen up from the dead. These are extraordinary claims. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The unsubstantiated crappola written in a "holy book" falls far short of the mark.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems? 
There are times when your ignorance comes in the extra-large dump truck size, G-C.
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 (August 17, 2013 at 1:07 am)Thor Wrote: Also, no one makes outrageous claims regarding "leaders of the time". Didn't Suetonius and Tacitus write about how Vespasian cured two men, one of whom was blind? There was a period of time when Romans claimed that their emperors were divine, and such claims of miracles would probably not have seemed so strange to them. We don't accept them today for the same reason we don't accept claims about Jesus... oh, wait.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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