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How will you explain to your children...
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RE: How will you explain to your children...
(September 8, 2013 at 10:34 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I am gay. Angel The only breeding I do is with other men, and thankfully we cannot become pregnant.
So if homosexuality is genetic, why hasn't it been breed out of existence by now?
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#42
RE: How will you explain to your children...
(September 9, 2013 at 10:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(September 8, 2013 at 10:34 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I am gay. Angel The only breeding I do is with other men, and thankfully we cannot become pregnant.
So if homosexuality is genetic, why hasn't it been breed out of existence by now?

That question implies that genetic traits are passed ONLY because a male and female pass them on ... which is ridiculous.


Do I have blue eyes because my mom is a female??

Are all men gay because their dad is gay??

You're a fucking idiot.
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#43
RE: How will you explain to your children...
(September 9, 2013 at 10:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: So if homosexuality is genetic, why hasn't it been breed out of existence by now?

I am not a geneticist, but I am quite certain there is so much wrong with that one sentence.
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#44
RE: How will you explain to your children...
Genetics 101: recessive and dominant genes.

Ring any bells?
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#45
RE: How will you explain to your children...
Congratulations dimaniac you are #180
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#46
RE: How will you explain to your children...
(September 9, 2013 at 10:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: So if homosexuality is genetic, why hasn't it been breed out of existence by now?

Because GodDoesIt, keeping the gay gene alive. It's a miracle!

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#47
RE: How will you explain to your children...
(September 9, 2013 at 10:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(September 8, 2013 at 10:34 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I am gay. Angel The only breeding I do is with other men, and thankfully we cannot become pregnant.
So if homosexuality is genetic, why hasn't it been breed out of existence by now?

Its actually not an insane question. There are a number of probable causes of homosexuality, one of which, for example, is not genetic.

It appears that in families which have 4 or more sons the probability that the last son will be homosexual is much higher than the norm for the general population. It is speculated that it might be caused by the mother producing something akin to anti-testosterone as a kind of immune system reaction.

There may also be a genetic element which probably resides on the x-chromosome and affects the androgenisation of the brain. This would explain why it cannot be "bred out" as it would be passed on through the mother (the father cannot pass his x chromosome on to his son).
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(September 8, 2013 at 5:27 pm)dimaniac Wrote: In a world where there's no scientific proof of God's existence and of life after death how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they will have to die?

I haven't read the thread, just responding to the OP.

Umm... I think it would be rather mean and borderline abusive (fairly traumatic at any rate) to tell a young child: HEY! Guess what?!? You're gonna die someday!

Best way that I've had to explain death to my kids (ages 5 and 7) is to have pets, particularly those that don't last long (ie. goldfish, hamster, etc.). We never hid the fact that the pet died and the kids wanted to help say goodbye (a small funeral of sorts around the toilet bowl for the fish, and a small burial service in the garden for the hamster). When they ask questions, like, "Where's Roly Poly now?" And especially for my younger, who had more difficulty with the idea of permanence (ie. hamster died, he's not coming back), we would answer honestly. Simply stating that everything that lives, dies. You don't have to point out that they're going to die too. They've figured out that mom and dad are going to die, but not a mention as to their own mortality.
We also used pet deaths as a teaching moments about religion. Telling them what different people believe happens when someone/something dies (go to heaven, get reincarnated, are just gone and the body breaks down into soil and nourishes other life). It's pretty obvious which one makes the most sense. We also told them that our loved ones (people and pets) are always with us in our memories and hearts and the good times we had with them.
A big part of why religion is still around, is the fact that people are uncomfortable with the idea of death. I question this. Why fear death? Death is as natural as being born, as natural as breathing, as natural as life. Sure we don't know what happens afterwards, and the unknown is always what is most scary, but no one knows the answer, so why fuss about the possibilities? From a biological standpoint, our very sense of self, can be reduced to a series of electrical impulses and hormones/chemicals in our brains. Upon death these things cease. End of story. I really don't see what is so terrifying about that.
As to why we brought them into this world... We make that kind of obvious by loving and supporting them. Telling and showing them that they are really wonderful and special to us. Helping them explore this world.
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#49
RE: How will you explain to your children...
(September 8, 2013 at 5:27 pm)dimaniac Wrote: In a world where there's no scientific proof of God's existence and of life after death how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they will have to die?

With caring words that do not invoke eternal damnation and scare/guilt them into a life of dogmatic servitude.

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RE: How will you explain to your children...
(September 8, 2013 at 5:27 pm)dimaniac Wrote: In a world where there's no scientific proof of God's existence and of life after death how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they will have to die?

I think having a chance to experience life and explore all that it has to offer, even for the short time we get, is enough justification. As for death, well I don't want to saddle my young children with the knowledge they will eventually have to die and the fear of doing so. Let them find their own philosophy when they get older.
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