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Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm
I had some time, so I came back to pay a visit to my friends over on this forum. Sup.
And I've been thinking about rationality lately. Let me just lay it on you like butter on toast.
Almost all atheism is irrational. Why?
A lot of us point to the supposed intelligence of atheists, but what I've come to realize is that most of us have become atheists at quite a young age. Too young, honestly, to have a full grasp of our logical faculties or the world around us. Age 13 or 14 is simply not when your mind is fully developed. This includes the vast majority of atheist intellectuals who become atheists at a young age and just engage in confirmation bias throughout their academic careers.
Atheists whine. A lot. If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity. For a "rational", "skeptical" group of people, such lack of rationality is alarmingly hypocritical.
About matters of the intellect, atheists are very superficially educated. They have a basic foundation down "EVOLUTION RULZ, GOD SUX HAHA I HAVE BIBEL VURSES THAT SUX LOL" but fundamental nuances are often glossed over or missed because their interest is not in knowing things, but in confirming what they want to be true.
"Ah but Vinny Gabagool, atheists know more about the Bible, look at the stats!" You will say, no doubt pointing to some stats. "Nonsense!" I will reply. While most religions are entirely focused on knowing about their own religion, atheists, for the most part are anti-theists. So everything they need to know is anti-religious dogma. Biblical contradictions, the euthyphro dilemma, wise-ass sayings that are actually nonsensical- these are de facto atheist teachings. So of course, they would "know more" their entire existence depends on their hatred against people who believe in a God!
When I started off as a skeptic, I started with a sense of intimidation. I was scared of all the intellectuals. Now that I'm a little older, a little smarter, a little more educated....I feel sorry for them.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:16 pm
In the famous words of apophenia, What a bunch of hooey.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:23 pm
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I had some time, so I came back to pay a visit to my friends over on this forum. Sup.
And I've been thinking about rationality lately. Let me just lay it on you like butter on toast.
Almost all atheism is irrational. Why?
A lot of us point to the supposed intelligence of atheists, but what I've come to realize is that most of us have become atheists at quite a young age. Too young, honestly, to have a full grasp of our logical faculties or the world around us. Age 13 or 14 is simply not when your mind is fully developed. This includes the vast majority of atheist intellectuals who become atheists at a young age and just engage in confirmation bias throughout their academic careers. Wtf?
Quote:Atheists whine. A lot. If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity. For a "rational", "skeptical" group of people, such lack of rationality is alarmingly hypocritical.
Cos when we're not talking about religion we don't feel the need to identify as atheists.
Quote:About matters of the intellect, atheists are very superficially educated. They have a basic foundation down "EVOLUTION RULZ, GOD SUX HAHA I HAVE BIBEL VURSES THAT SUX LOL" but fundamental nuances are often glossed over or missed because their interest is not in knowing things, but in confirming what they want to be true.
Wtf?
Quote:"Ah but Vinny Gabagool, atheists know more about the Bible, look at the stats!" You will say, no doubt pointing to some stats. "Nonsense!" I will reply. While most religions are entirely focused on knowing about their own religion, atheists, for the most part are anti-theists. So everything they need to know is anti-religious dogma. Biblical contradictions, the euthyphro dilemma, wise-ass sayings that are actually nonsensical- these are de facto atheist teachings. So of course, they would "know more" their entire existence depends on their hatred against people who believe in a God!
Not very bright or observational are you?
Quote:When I started off as a skeptic, I started with a sense of intimidation. I was scared of all the intellectuals. Now that I'm a little older, a little smarter, a little more educated....I feel sorry for them.
No idea why anyone would be scared of intellectuals, you should talk to someone about that. [/quote]
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:27 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2013 at 11:29 pm by artistriley.)
You're making a lot of unfair generalizations. I won't speak for everyone but I will tell you about myself. I come from a religious family and I have nothing against people who believe. Yes I began thinking about this when I was w teenager but I have thought alot about it since. I am not anti theist, in fact I am fascinated by peoples beliefs.I think faith does a lot of good for many people and if I could believe in a higher power, a soul and an after life that'd be awesome but I just can't reconcile the injustice and inequity that I see on earth with what is supposed to be an all powerful all loving being. I would love to hear why you believe.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:32 pm
You know little and understand even less about atheism, Vinny, if this simplistic shite is your realization after reflection.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Quote:And I've been thinking about rationality lately.
Think harder.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:53 pm
(September 24, 2013 at 11:27 pm)artistriley Wrote: You're making a lot of unfair generalizations. I won't speak for everyone but I will tell you about myself. I come from a religious family and I have nothing against people who believe. Yes I began thinking about this when I was w teenager but I have thought alot about it since. I am not anti theist, in fact I am fascinated by peoples beliefs.I think faith does a lot of good for many people and if I could believe in a higher power, a soul and an after life that'd be awesome but I just can't reconcile the injustice and inequity that I see on earth with what is supposed to be an all powerful all loving being. I would love to hear why you believe.
You're right, I shouldn't generalize.
And you not being one of "them" is an encouragement to me.
What would you put the ratio at? Is the ratio of irrational:rational atheists something around 50:50? Maybe 30:70?
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 24, 2013 at 11:55 pm
Quote: Atheists whine. A lot. If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity. For a "rational", "skeptical" group of people, such lack of rationality is alarmingly hypocritical.
About matters of the intellect, atheists are very superficially educated. They have a basic foundation down "EVOLUTION RULZ, GOD SUX HAHA I HAVE BIBEL VURSES THAT SUX LOL" but fundamental nuances are often glossed over or missed because their interest is not in knowing things, but in confirming what they want to be true.
This is very unreasonable. Statistics and probability state nothing of a group of people, no less.
Return with facts, and discussion may have some value.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 12:16 am
Hmmm, you do make some very general statements. Remember the belief in your religion is just faith.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
You described how atheists may behave irrationally (according to your own, special, definition of rationality), but how does any of this demonstrate that atheism is irrational?
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