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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 3:46 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Secondly, assumptions of linearity are almost always, if not always, false in the real world.
The real world is a place I don't think you've ever visited.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm)Zazzy Wrote: And... STILL conflating abiogenesis with evolution, even though it has been explained multiple times that these are separate fields. Grace, why is it so important to you to keep repeating this canard?
The attempt to hide the impossible gap as by trying to keep them separate, as referred to by my topic on abiogeneis, shows that atheistic origin science cannot answer it.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 3:48 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm)Zazzy Wrote: And... STILL conflating abiogenesis with evolution, even though it has been explained multiple times that these are separate fields. Grace, why is it so important to you to keep repeating this canard?
Because she knows that stopping at any point would mean actually addressing arguments that she's simply not equipped to.
She's wrong, and the minute she stops spouting bullshit, she'll realize it.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 3:51 pm
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(October 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 8, 2013 at 3:34 pm)Chas Wrote: The former is not part of the Theory of Evolution, and the latter is the failure of your intellect.
You do not seem to understand the expanse of time involved, nor the fossil record, nor the idea that successive small changes can create large change without limit.
The theory of small changes can add up to large changes is a fundamentally flawed line of reasoning. The reason is that extrapolation beyond the measured range is never guaranteed.
Secondly, assumptions of linearity are almost always, if not always, false in the real world.
There is no assumption of linearity; it is extrapolation. There is no flaw that you have expressed, merely an assertion.
What limit is there on change? Genetic space is vast.
(October 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm)Zazzy Wrote: And... STILL conflating abiogenesis with evolution, even though it has been explained multiple times that these are separate fields. Grace, why is it so important to you to keep repeating this canard?
The attempt to hide the impossible gap as by trying to keep them separate, as referred to by my topic on abiogeneis, shows that atheistic origin science cannot answer it.
That you cannot conceive of chemical change that leads to self-replication is not proof of anything other than your mental limits.
You have not proven anything about abiogenesis, merely asserted its impossibility.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The attempt to hide the impossible gap as by trying to keep them separate, as referred to by my topic on abiogeneis, shows that atheistic origin science cannot answer it. Grace, all scientists agree that these are separate things. It's only you and your non-scientist creationists (you know, the ones who never do any work that helps further medicine or technology) that conflate them, just as you are the only people who use the term "atheistic origin science," which does not exist in the real world of experimentation.
Have you ever taken medication, Grace? Have you ever had a surgical procedure? If you have, you better stop- they were produced by atheistic science.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Yes but her computer was made by God. Internet provided by the Holy Ghost. And Jesus built her router.
In fact the original Apple Mac was on the Ark (2 of them obviously).
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Are you suggesting that Apple Macs are unclean beasts?
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 4:12 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Are you suggesting that Apple Macs are unclean beasts?
Not as unclean as Big Macs which is why they weren't on the ark.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 5:11 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (October 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The attempt to hide the impossible gap as by trying to keep them separate, as referred to by my topic on abiogeneis, shows that atheistic origin science cannot answer it. Grace, all scientists agree that these are separate things. It's only you and your non-scientist creationists (you know, the ones who never do any work that helps further medicine or technology) that conflate them, just as you are the only people who use the term "atheistic origin science," which does not exist in the real world of experimentation.
Have you ever taken medication, Grace? Have you ever had a surgical procedure? If you have, you better stop- they were produced by atheistic science.
Produced by science. Origins was not involved.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Why should that make a difference?
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