(November 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm)Rationalman Wrote:Eh just check his post history under the thread "Why atheism always has a burden of proof" to save yourself the trouble of him rehashing the communist/atheist bullshit.(November 5, 2013 at 9:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: Well if I had to pick a legitimate religion, I would have to say Islam since it's history is tied with conquest.
For a non-legitimate religion, I would say atheism since atheists have killed by far the most people.
I'm guessing that you have the numbers to prove this statement?
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The most dangerous Religion?
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  (November 5, 2013 at 9:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: For a non-legitimate religion, I would say atheism since atheists have killed by far the most people. Atheism is a non-legitimate religion? Are you implying that atheism was born out of wedlock? So what is atheism in your mind? The bastard love child of Scientology and Voodoo? By the way, atheism is not in any way, shape or form a religion. It is not a creed or system of beliefs...it is a conclusion that people come to when reason and critical thinking kick in. 
So, now there are "legitimate" and "illegitimate" religions? lol, that's a new one.
Those bastards! 
It is funny how the religious are as eager to point fingers as the atheists and other non-religious.
 RE: The most dangerous Religion?
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(November 6, 2013 at 1:25 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: So, now there are "legitimate" and "illegitimate" religions? lol, that's a new one. It can be classified as a religion per the secondary definition as "a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance", but that secondary definition is not the usual definition people first think of when talking about religion. One of the reasons for the high levels of causalities in these secular conflicts was due to the proliferation of weapons not seen in previous conflicts. So even though there have been less wars caused by atheists, their conflicts have been far more savage. All you have to look at are the wars caused by secular governments (not just communist as unrationalman stated...he's forgetting the so-called Central American Crisis and the conflicts in Sub-Saharan Africa) in the 20th century to assert control over the population....sad, they likely would have saved the deaths of millions had they just used religion as a form of control.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
Still not seeing any numbers and I don't recall mentioning communists at all, when did I say that?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (November 6, 2013 at 8:50 pm)Rationalman Wrote: Still not seeing any numbers and I don't recall mentioning communists at all, when did I say that? Sorry. Mixed up a quote. The deaths due to communism stands at a liberal 110 million, though more than half of that was due to just Republicanshit behavior by the communist leadership towards the sanctity of human life....aka the progroms and the Cultural Revolution (still I find such bullshit behavior to be highly dangerous). The other deaths (which also fall in line with the other 3rd World secular conflicts) where you had forces trying to legitimize their hold on power from pretty much nothing but strength of force...I would have to estimate by looking at the other conflicts not related to communist expansion (Congo alone stands at 5 million dead for their civil war), they amount to an additional 30 million by using only the lowest estimates. What I have found concerning people's perceptions of religion and violence is you can kill several hundred people for non-religious reasons and people pass it off, but you can kill say 19 people for religious reasons and suddenly it's the talk of the century.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
Non-religious reasons has nothing to do with atheism. In order to back up what you are saying, you would have to prove that atheism was the motivation behind killing all these people. You have to prove that they killed them because there is no god. Just because religion was not involved does not mean atheism was involved.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (November 6, 2013 at 9:24 pm)Rationalman Wrote: Non-religious reasons has nothing to do with atheism. In order to back up what you are saying, you would have to prove that atheism was the motivation behind killing all these people. You have to prove that they killed them because there is no god. Just because religion was not involved does not mean atheism was involved. Well, if I had to prove that atheism was such a motivation, then I would have to call into question most of the wars attributed to Christianity and Islam. Just because one form of a religion was not involved, does not mean another form did not take its place....cult of personality is not a religion in the truest sense (though it can be argued that it is itself a form of religion), but many atheists have fallen victim to it. Just look at North Korea for example.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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