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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 1:46 pm
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(November 13, 2013 at 12:42 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: It was introduced as a means to restrict the sexuality of individuals, so that people wouldn't be able to go and fornicate with everyone in sight
Yeah, so how did that work out?
(November 13, 2013 at 1:42 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: When it comes to marriage, homosexual couples are not on the same level with heterosexual couples, and they can never be, due to the fact that they cannot form families on the basis of natural reproduction.
So are you then in favor of refusing marriage licenses to heterosexual couples unless they can prove that they're fertile?
If you think that marriage is only for reproduction then I have some news for you.
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 1:50 pm
(November 13, 2013 at 1:42 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Equality is only amongst equals. When it comes to marriage, homosexual couples are not on the same level with heterosexual couples, and they can never be, due to the fact that they cannot form families on the basis of natural reproduction. And this is what family and therefore marriage is actually all about.
So, since they can't, what kind of an equality are we speaking of here?
Yeah I reject your argument entirely. But I know better than to try explaining why, you'll just deny that marriage has changed over the years, etc, etc, and I encourage everyone to stop bothering with you.
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 1:56 pm
(November 13, 2013 at 1:50 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: (November 13, 2013 at 1:42 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Equality is only amongst equals. When it comes to marriage, homosexual couples are not on the same level with heterosexual couples, and they can never be, due to the fact that they cannot form families on the basis of natural reproduction. And this is what family and therefore marriage is actually all about.
So, since they can't, what kind of an equality are we speaking of here?
Yeah I reject your argument entirely. But I know better than to try explaining why, you'll just deny that marriage has changed over the years, etc, etc, and I encourage everyone to stop bothering with you.
Peace guys, have fun! Oh, that's how you deal with people that oppose your anti-social crap, then. You're a special kind of whom I deem to be the "weepers". You weep with your friends and tell them of the social injustice brought upon the world by people who support values of decency and family and society, and claim that marriage has changed to accomodate the thousand other gender types you claim that exist.
Marriage has not changed, it is still between a man and a woman, and its purpose remains the same. You just can't accept it.
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Just have to say - I told you all; now I'm really peacing. I'll be sure to cry extra just for you, Mehmet.
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 2:14 pm
(November 13, 2013 at 1:56 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Marriage has not changed, it is still between a man and a woman
Oh you mean it's not between a man and his many wives and concubines, a woman and her rapist, a woman and an invading soldier who just helped conquer the land she lives in, a man and his dead brother's wife...
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 2:16 pm
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(November 13, 2013 at 2:14 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: (November 13, 2013 at 1:56 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Marriage has not changed, it is still between a man and a woman
Oh you mean it's not between a man and his many wives and concubines, a woman and her rapist, a woman and an invading soldier who just helped conquer the land she lives in, a man and his dead brother's wife...
The wives are not married to eachother, the "marriage" itself is still between the man and the woman.
Besides, the other examples really serve to assist my point. It's between a man and a woman.
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 7:59 pm
You're really hung up on this "between a man and a woman" thing, aren't you? Even to the point you're justifying polygamy and forced marriages?
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 8:21 pm
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(November 13, 2013 at 1:56 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Oh, that's how you deal with people that oppose your anti-social crap, then. You're a special kind of whom I deem to be the "weepers". You weep with your friends and tell them of the social injustice brought upon the world by people who support values of decency and family and society, and claim that marriage has changed to accomodate the thousand other gender types you claim that exist.
Marriage has not changed, it is still between a man and a woman, and its purpose remains the same. You just can't accept it.
Hate to break it to you, Hitler Jr., but all the pants-wetting in the world isn't going to turn the clock back to the 11th century.
Marriage has not changed. It is still between a man and a woman. Men and women will still be able to marry just like always. You have nothing to bitch about. So, stop.
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 8:46 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2013 at 8:48 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
(November 13, 2013 at 8:21 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (November 13, 2013 at 1:56 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Oh, that's how you deal with people that oppose your anti-social crap, then. You're a special kind of whom I deem to be the "weepers". You weep with your friends and tell them of the social injustice brought upon the world by people who support values of decency and family and society, and claim that marriage has changed to accomodate the thousand other gender types you claim that exist.
Marriage has not changed, it is still between a man and a woman, and its purpose remains the same. You just can't accept it.
Hate to break it to you, Hitler Jr., but all the pants-wetting in the world isn't going to turn the clock back to the 11th century.
Marriage has not changed. It is still between a man and a woman. Men and women will still be able to marry just like always. You have nothing to bitch about. So, stop.
I don't want to go back to the 11th century. But you want the world to go back to the times of ancient Greece and Rome where sodomy was deemed somewhat "acceptable".
So do not accuse me of living in the past.
Quote:You're really hung up on this "between a man and a woman" thing, aren't you? Even to the point you're justifying polygamy and forced marriages?
Did I say anything that glorified polygamy or forced marriages? I simply said, what you said. Marriage, forced or not, monogamous or not, was always between a man and a woman, because that is the whole point of marriage. Creating a socially acceptable platform for procreation and child raising. Perpetrating society through the institution of the family.
This is what its all about. Homosexuals were never considered to be a part of the said institutions anywhere in any culture on earth. So what gives them the right to mould marriage and the family to fit their own views on how society should function?
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RE: Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality
November 13, 2013 at 9:01 pm
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(November 13, 2013 at 8:46 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I don't want to go back to the 11th century. But you want the world to go back to the times of ancient Greece and Rome where sodomy was deemed somewhat "acceptable".
So do not accuse me of living in the past.
I did not think I would get to use this line twice in one thread, but it takes someone as uniquely retarded as you to take that away from what I said.
Why do you even care? This isn't happening in whatever superstitious throwback shithole you live in.
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