And Hells come back to haunt me

[snowtracks]

what the heck? that's barely coherent.

Despite knowing that my 5 year old would have been able to understand those questions, let me try to dumb that down even further.

Your body is made of millions of living things called cells. Your body is only made of these millions of cells and their byproducts. These cells do not live the entire lifespan of the person. The death of a person is simply the "great slump of dying cells."

So what I am asking is: How does the "magical soul" that is withing your christian belief, get passed on from cell to cell? How does the last cell know that it has to keep it's tiny bit of the soul for judgment, instead of passing it on as happened during the previous cell generations?

well that certainly clarifies it.
maybe i have been transported and now am withing in an alternative U. somewhere.

[StrongWaters]

Hi Folks,

I am in a bit of a Predicament, I read yesterday about the pascals wager and so I became a bit skeptic.

For the last year I have had problems about the 'Unforgivable Sin and Going to Hell' To rid myself of these problems I decided to read the Bible and see if I became an Atheist.

Honestly - I had never read the bible so the Unforgivable sin to me was one passage that I knew against the backdrop of all the ones I didn't know.

The way I think is that I need to read something for myself - Taking peoples word that I didn't commit it or using scripture does not work I need to learn this for myself.


That crap out of the way:: I decided to read the bible. I found 149 problems with it and that's without reading my SAB Bible.

By the end I was concrete in my opinion that God 'May' Exist but if he does we are all pretty much fucked as he Isn't very stable minded. And it also appears he punishes those who aren't on his team. E.g. Abraham - Lot - Joseph.

But since people are raising pascals wager I am a bit deluded as I now believe I am going to hell by the God of the Christian bible.

Weirdest thing is the fact that I don't much want to goto heaven as it doesn't sound much better e.g. Kissing Gods ass for eternity.

And lastly is the fact that I have my view on Genesis that falls apart quickly. Maybe I need to solidify my Athiest Belief?

Is this a correct view point - Would reading Exodus add more concrete to the Athiest Mixture or would it weaken it.

I had this same outlook until I found the key to understanding the symbolism in the Bible. I could tell you here, or simply link you to my many pages of thought. [Link removed]

The key to symbolism is found in the top forums. If you have questions, I would be glad to answer them by my own perspective. I think you may find it refreshing and unique. Read my threads here as well. There are only three.

[snowtracks]

Hi Folks,

I am in a bit of a Predicament, I read yesterday about the pascals wager and so I became a bit skeptic.

For the last year I have had problems about the 'Unforgivable Sin and Going to Hell' To rid myself of these problems I decided to read the Bible and see if I became an Atheist.

Honestly - I had never read the bible so the Unforgivable sin to me was one passage that I knew against the backdrop of all the ones I didn't know.

The way I think is that I need to read something for myself - Taking peoples word that I didn't commit it or using scripture does not work I need to learn this for myself.


That crap out of the way:: I decided to read the bible. I found 149 problems with it and that's without reading my SAB Bible.

By the end I was concrete in my opinion that God 'May' Exist but if he does we are all pretty much fucked as he Isn't very stable minded. And it also appears he punishes those who aren't on his team. E.g. Abraham - Lot - Joseph.

But since people are raising pascals wager I am a bit deluded as I now believe I am going to hell by the God of the Christian bible.

Weirdest thing is the fact that I don't much want to goto heaven as it doesn't sound much better e.g. Kissing Gods ass for eternity.

And lastly is the fact that I have my view on Genesis that falls apart quickly. Maybe I need to solidify my Athiest Belief?

Is this a correct view point - Would reading Exodus add more concrete to the Athiest Mixture or would it weaken it.

I had this same outlook until I found the key to understanding the symbolism in the Bible. I could tell you here, or simply link you to my many pages of thought. [Link removed]

The key to symbolism is found in the top forums. If you have questions, I would be glad to answer them by my own perspective. I think you may find it refreshing and unique. Read my threads here as well. There are only three.

'unforgivable sin or unpardonable sin' has no remedy which is committed the moment a person dies that possess the understanding that Christ spent an eternity in hell to pay the ransom for their sins, but has decided that God's salvation plan is not for them.
at the highest level, this earthly life's purpose is to determine where each person will spend eternity. why does God do it this way? He chose to do it this way.

[StrongWaters]

I had this same outlook until I found the key to understanding the symbolism in the Bible. I could tell you here, or simply link you to my many pages of thought. [Link removed]

The key to symbolism is found in the top forums. If you have questions, I would be glad to answer them by my own perspective. I think you may find it refreshing and unique. Read my threads here as well. There are only three.

'unforgivable sin or unpardonable sin' has no remedy which is committed the moment a person dies that possess the understanding that Christ spent an eternity in hell to pay the ransom for their sins, but has decided that God's salvation plan is not for them.
at the highest level, this earthly life's purpose is to determine where each person will spend eternity. why does God do it this way? He chose to do it this way.

A person does not need to die in a state of sin. Baptism is the immersion of the soul into a person. We are here to repent. Blasphemy is rejecting the Spirit of God as the mechanism of life. For instance, when science states that light is a duality of particle and wave, this is leaving out the main aspect of what can be observed about light. The wave function of light is collapsed by the observer. Light is a particle, wave and consciousness. Apart from the observer (Spirit), there is no collapse.

Willfully rejecting the truth is ignorance, or ignoreANCE. This is blasphemy. When a person comes to a saving knowledge of the Spirit, this is the Spirit's work on the person. In this case, there is no rejection if the person becomes aware of the Spirit as the voice of God.

John 6

65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”

66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve.

As long as we are in the water, there is opportunity to follow and walk with God. He stands at the door. God's work in us is faith. This prepares us to come to the Son.

When Abraam came to God in faith, the Hey was added to his name. Abraham was then coming to God. The letter means to behold a great work.



When we come to God, it is first Him coming to us. Tav is the mark of Christ on us.



In the first instance, we come to God. This is Bet Aleph Tav. When God comes to us, it is Aleph Mem Tav, or TRUTH.

We are the beast coming in the water to the cross. Literally, this word Truth means Aleph (Strong) Mem (Waters) to Save (Cross / Tav).



As with all my posts, these are breadcrumbs for anyone to research. Do some research on Bet Aleph Tav, or coming to God's house of strength in the cross.

Ruth 2:12
12 May the Lord repay you for what you have done. May you be richly rewarded by the Lord, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come [Bet Aleph Tav] to take refuge.

[Brakeman]

As with all my posts, these are breadcrumbs for anyone to research. Do some research on Bet Aleph Tav.., or coming ..

Since you are unable to posit coherent propositions or make much sense at all, I see it's time to respond to you without much respect.



Your interpretation of these symbols is obviously flawed. They must be taken in their historical context.

The Aleph and Mem represent the male rams that were ubiquitous throughout the mid-east. The cross (TAV) is obviously the symbol for jesus, the "Shepard" for the sheep. Put together it represents Jesus coming up behind and "ramming it" to the animals in a fit of sordid bestiality.

Let me know if you need more help with ancient symbolism. I took a course from Joseph Smith's school of Egyptian hieroglyphics reading, complete with the stone in hat over face methods, that so many christians respect.

[Duck]

A person does not need to die in a state of sin. Baptism is the immersion of the soul into a person. We are here to repent. Blasphemy is rejecting the Spirit of God as the mechanism of life. For instance, when science states that light is a duality of particle and wave, this is leaving out the main aspect of what can be observed about light. The wave function of light is collapsed by the observer. Light is a particle, wave and consciousness. Apart from the observer (Spirit), there is no collapse.

'We are here to repent'. For what? Is our existence enough to require repentance? That seems a bit off, I'm not doing anyone any harm between leaving my mother's womb and opening my eyes for the first time am i?

You say "light is a particle, wave and consciousness". Now wave-particle duality is well documented. Wave-particle-consciousness not so much. Do we loose consciousness in the dark then? And if you think that observation causes light to 'collapse' (I don't quite know what you refer to here) then does a camera cause this too? A black object from which light is not reflected but absorbed?

Willfully rejecting the truth is ignorance, or ignoreANCE. This is blasphemy. When a person comes to a saving knowledge of the Spirit, this is the Spirit's work on the person. In this case, there is no rejection if the person becomes aware of the Spirit as the voice of God.

Is there a difference between ignorance and 'ignoreance' other than bad spelling? In order for something to be considered true it should be backed up with evidence. Is there any?

As long as we are in the water, there is opportunity to follow and walk with God. He stands at the door. God's work in us is faith. This prepares us to come to the Son.

When Abraam came to God in faith, the Hey was added to his name. Abraham was then coming to God. The letter means to behold a great work.

This really doesn't mean anything. If we are in water, then a door isn't really a practical thing to have around is it? A sluice gate would be more appropriate perhaps?

Oh, and what is a Hey and how is one added to a name?

[StrongWaters]

As with all my posts, these are breadcrumbs for anyone to research. Do some research on Bet Aleph Tav.., or coming ..

Since you are unable to posit coherent propositions or make much sense at all, I see it's time to respond to you without much respect.



Your interpretation of these symbols is obviously flawed. They must be taken in their historical context.

The Aleph and Mem represent the male rams that were ubiquitous throughout the mid-east. The cross (TAV) is obviously the symbol for jesus, the "Shepard" for the sheep. Put together it represents Jesus coming up behind and "ramming it" to the animals in a fit of sordid bestiality.

Let me know if you need more help with ancient symbolism. I took a course from Joseph Smith's school of Egyptian hieroglyphics reading, complete with the stone in hat over face methods, that so many christians respect.

What's in the well comes up in the bucket.

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A person does not need to die in a state of sin. Baptism is the immersion of the soul into a person. We are here to repent. Blasphemy is rejecting the Spirit of God as the mechanism of life. For instance, when science states that light is a duality of particle and wave, this is leaving out the main aspect of what can be observed about light. The wave function of light is collapsed by the observer. Light is a particle, wave and consciousness. Apart from the observer (Spirit), there is no collapse.

'We are here to repent'. For what? Is our existence enough to require repentance? That seems a bit off, I'm not doing anyone any harm between leaving my mother's womb and opening my eyes for the first time am i?

You say "light is a particle, wave and consciousness". Now wave-particle duality is well documented. Wave-particle-consciousness not so much. Do we loose consciousness in the dark then? And if you think that observation causes light to 'collapse' (I don't quite know what you refer to here) then does a camera cause this too? A black object from which light is not reflected but absorbed?

Willfully rejecting the truth is ignorance, or ignoreANCE. This is blasphemy. When a person comes to a saving knowledge of the Spirit, this is the Spirit's work on the person. In this case, there is no rejection if the person becomes aware of the Spirit as the voice of God.

Is there a difference between ignorance and 'ignoreance' other than bad spelling? In order for something to be considered true it should be backed up with evidence. Is there any?

As long as we are in the water, there is opportunity to follow and walk with God. He stands at the door. God's work in us is faith. This prepares us to come to the Son.

When Abraam came to God in faith, the Hey was added to his name. Abraham was then coming to God. The letter means to behold a great work.

This really doesn't mean anything. If we are in water, then a door isn't really a practical thing to have around is it? A sluice gate would be more appropriate perhaps?

Oh, and what is a Hey and how is one added to a name?

Involution demands inconscience. You do not remember your former estate. There is a reason you are here. The things that master you here are meant to be overcome. The entire context of the Bible points to a time before the flood.

In Hebrew, AMN is TRUE. It is our word AMEN. In Greek and Latin, it is the foundation for the story of the Lamb. East and West are present in all linguistics.

AMN - Lamb

AMNi - River of life (Jordan)

AMNio - Bowl catching the sacrifice of the lamb in ancient Roman culture. The blood was mixed with the waters of the womb.

AMNion - The same words as the bowl, but meaning the sac of the mother's womb.

AMNiotic Fluid - This is the waters of the womb.

AMNesia - This is the Lamb behind the veil and when YOU do not remember your previous estate with God.

AMNesty is when God forgets your sins.

dAMNation is when God does not forget.

Find any other word in Greek or Latin using AMN. The tree of knowledge has branches. They are formed from the root to the trunk. Babel is the branching of the tree.

I just showed you a branch that contains the reason you do not remember why you are here.

[Duck]

I just showed you a branch that contains the reason you do not remember why you are here.

Well, you haven't. you have used some words for a language a few thousand years old to try and bluff such a thing.

Language cannot show me why I don't remember stuff. You would need to provide evidence that I existed and thus could have a memory before I was born.

[StrongWaters]

I just showed you a branch that contains the reason you do not remember why you are here.

Well, you haven't. you have used some words for a language a few thousand years old to try and bluff such a thing.

Language cannot show me why I don't remember stuff. You would need to provide evidence that I existed and thus could have a memory before I was born.

If I offer a small child a nickle or a dime, they take the nickel because it looks bigger. The older child takes the dime because it has more value. You cannot see the value directly.

[Duck]

Well, you haven't. you have used some words for a language a few thousand years old to try and bluff such a thing.

Language cannot show me why I don't remember stuff. You would need to provide evidence that I existed and thus could have a memory before I was born.

If I offer a small child a nickle or a dime, they take the nickel because it looks bigger. The older child takes the dime because it has more value. You cannot see the value directly.

You are not some wise old man, stop being patronising. Also, you have not answered my question. More bluffing. It shows a lack of intellectual integrity.