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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am
Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
The current “theory” is that the universe came into being from some explosion called the Big Bang. The standard Big Bang theory does not match smoothness of the cosmic background radiation. So the theory of Inflation was added to the standard Big Bang. That is the latest conjecture of modern science.
Now there are many problems with this “answer” to the origin of the universe. If nothing existed before the Big Bang, then the Big Bang violates a number of principle and laws of science. It violates conservation of mass-energy. The energy went from nothing to all the energy of the universe. It violates cause and effect. Nothing never just explodes and becomes something. It violates all observations, since nothing never just explodes into something. It also does not explain the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
If something existed before the Big Bang, then the origin question is not answered at all. If the universe always existed, then the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that all order disappeared an infinite time ago. But that is not the case. Also there is still no explanation of the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
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October 10, 2013 at 10:13 am
I can smell the smoke leaking from your ears as the gears in your head desperately attempt to produce a rational thought.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 10, 2013 at 10:17 am
Unfortunately all the gears are stripped.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 10, 2013 at 10:23 am
Your understanding of physics is easily outmatched by my 4 year old niece.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 10, 2013 at 10:35 am
Wow, where to start....
(October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer. It's just science, not "atheistic". The age of the universe has nothing to do with a god, and there are plenty of Christians who believe in the age/origin of the universe as science says.
(October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The current “theory” is that the universe came into being from some explosion called the Big Bang. The standard Big Bang theory does not match smoothness of the cosmic background radiation. So the theory of Inflation was added to the standard Big Bang. That is the latest conjecture of modern science. CBMR was discovered because of the big bang, not in spite of it.
Inflation wasn't "added". Expansion is still occurring and at an ever increasing rate. Space itself is increasing, everything is moving away from everything.
(October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Now there are many problems with this “answer” to the origin of the universe. If nothing existed before the Big Bang, then the Big Bang violates a number of principle and laws of science. It violates conservation of mass-energy. The energy went from nothing to all the energy of the universe. It violates cause and effect. Nothing never just explodes and becomes something. It violates all observations, since nothing never just explodes into something. It also does not explain the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe. No one says the universe came from nothing.
(October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: If something existed before the Big Bang, then the origin question is not answered at all. If the universe always existed, then the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that all order disappeared an infinite time ago. But that is not the case. Also there is still no explanation of the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe. How can all order disappear an infinite amount of time ago when the universe as we see it today has only been around for ~14by?
The singularity is what existed "before" the big bang. And "before" does not really work in this context since our known, singular dimension of time also began at the big bang. IE, for all practical purposes there is no such thing as "before" before the big bang. It's the same principle as saying that at true north there is no such direction as "north", no matter what direction you walk you can only go south.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 10, 2013 at 10:37 am
Where did god come from? Theistic origin science has no answer.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 10, 2013 at 10:41 am
(October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
The current “theory” is that the universe came into being from some explosion called the Big Bang. The standard Big Bang theory does not match smoothness of the cosmic background radiation. So the theory of Inflation was added to the standard Big Bang. That is the latest conjecture of modern science.
Now there are many problems with this “answer” to the origin of the universe. If nothing existed before the Big Bang, then the Big Bang violates a number of principle and laws of science. It violates conservation of mass-energy. The energy went from nothing to all the energy of the universe. It violates cause and effect. Nothing never just explodes and becomes something. It violates all observations, since nothing never just explodes into something. It also does not explain the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
If something existed before the Big Bang, then the origin question is not answered at all. If the universe always existed, then the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that all order disappeared an infinite time ago. But that is not the case. Also there is still no explanation of the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe. The typical answer to get around the fact that the singularity-big bang model violates the laws of nature is that the laws of nature only came into being a fraction of a second after the big bang.
Of course, that makes the singularity-big bang a supernatural explanation for the universe.
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October 10, 2013 at 10:45 am
No. The laws of physics as they are operating right now came after the big bang. What operated before the big bang was a different set of laws that we still do not understand. That is not a supernatural explanation, natural is not defined as whatever is going on right now. If it was, then dinosaurs would be supernatural.
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October 10, 2013 at 10:50 am
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When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 10, 2013 at 10:51 am
What is Atheistic origin science? Never heard of it before. 
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