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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 11:03 am
It's not about being extreme. Muslims don't agree amongst themselves what they should practice. That's why you get so many different degrees of covering up. Some girls only wear baggy clothes, some don't give a shit. They're just like any other religion, except for some reason they require special treatment and want nonmuslims to act like they have an obligation to accommodate these practices at the cost of their own. Who is bending over backwards to protect your right to buy pork and alcohol and checkout at any counter you like? Who's preventing you from being "offended"?
This isn't even about Islam, it's about being stupid.
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 11:10 am
(December 23, 2013 at 10:58 am)Nineteen Wrote: I dont see any problem . There is no problem if the employer approves this request and this case does not concern anyone . I'd do the same thing .
There wouldn't be a problem if the employer had another job that they could give them. However they will be working on the checkout, and customers could be inconvenienced by this ultimately affecting the business.
I have no problem if you said "I won't apply to work on a checkout because I don't want to touch pork", but getting the job then forcing the employer to get someone else to do the task you have agreed to do in your contract is wrong.
The point is that anyone could refuse to do anything based on their religious beliefs, which they don't have to justify. There is no list of approved religions.
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 11:25 am
Sack the miserable cunts; not because of their religion, but because they refuse to do the job they'd agreed to do in exchange for wages.
I only wish that reasonable Muslims would publicly tell these lazy ass offense seekers to get fucked.
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 11:37 am
(December 23, 2013 at 11:10 am)FreeTony Wrote: There wouldn't be a problem if the employer had another job that they could give them. However they will be working on the checkout, and customers could be inconvenienced by this ultimately affecting the business.
I have no problem if you said "I won't apply to work on a checkout because I don't want to touch pork", but getting the job then forcing the employer to get someone else to do the task you have agreed to do in your contract is wrong.
The point is that anyone could refuse to do anything based on their religious beliefs, which they don't have to justify. There is no list of approved religions.
Then the employer will dismiss them if there is no such an article of agreement . But I see they are allowed , so the employer is not suffer .
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 11:42 am
It's silly as fuck. I doubt there was even much demand for it in the first place. I've known a lot of Muslims who've worked in Supermarkets and other food places who don't mind selling/serving pork or alcohol.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this has been done to feed the Islamaphobes, rather than to aid the minority of Muslim employees who want to kick up a fuss over nothing. Partly because Marks & Spencer is a Jewish company, but hasn't mentioned whether or not their Jewish employees can also refuse to sell pork products (unless I skimmed over such a comment and failed to pick it up?). At the end of the day, this isn't going to help the Muslim community at all. Firstly, because you get all the racists adding it to their shitpile of justification for burning down mosques and attacking anyone who looks Muslim in the streets, and secondly because it's going to make it harder for Muslims to find employment at M&S, or any supermarket for that matter. It's going to do British Muslims more harm than good.
If they don't want to do the job they are employed to do, they should seek employment elsewhere. I'm a vegetarian, so I wouldn't apply for a job at a butchers, because I wouldn't want to be handling meat all day as it goes against my personal beliefs. I wouldn't get a job at a butchers then ask them to accommodate me later on. That's insane. Then again, when I worked at Camden Food Co. I did request gloves for the odd shift I worked in the kitchens making the sandwiches and salads and stuff so I wouldn't have to actually touch meat with my bare hands. I would have preferred to only do the veggie stuff and leave the meat ones to my other colleagues, but that would have been taking the piss when a simple pair of gloves was all it took for me to do the job without feeling the need to wash my hands a bajillion times afterwards. lol
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 11:45 am
They should be fired.
Just like those xtian fuckwits who don't want to dispense birth control.
Don't pretend you didn't know what the job was before you took it.
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 11:50 am
They should all be fired. Anyone who is this fanatical should be considered unemployable. This is cultural jihad that must be stopped!
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 1:50 pm
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(December 23, 2013 at 10:58 am)Nineteen Wrote: I dont see any problem . There is no problem if the employer approves this request and this case does not concern anyone . I'd do the same thing .
I'd explain why you're wrong and why the erosion of rights/laws that apply equally to all in favour of rights based on a retarded belief is actually a sure fire way to fuck up a country, but I'm going to pass because you're an idiot and you wouldn't understand anyway even if I wasn't on ignore.
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Oh, you don't want to serve me certain items because it's against your beliefs? That's cool, I don't want to spend my money jumping through ridiculous hoops when that other supermarket will- and this might seem crazy- allow me to spend my money purchasing their goods. Acquiescing to entitled bullshit is against my beliefs.
Just let your money speak for itself, fellows; there are plenty of places that won't prevent you from engaging them in the premise of the business' existence, and funnily enough, I suspect that money means a lot more to the corporate suit-fillers than the religious beliefs of a few entitled employees.
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RE: Checkout staff refusing to serve pork or alcohol
December 23, 2013 at 4:06 pm
(December 23, 2013 at 2:43 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, you don't want to serve me certain items because it's against your beliefs? That's cool, I don't want to spend my money jumping through ridiculous hoops when that other supermarket will- and this might seem crazy- allow me to spend my money purchasing their goods. Acquiescing to entitled bullshit is against my beliefs.
Just let your money speak for itself, fellows; there are plenty of places that won't prevent you from engaging them in the premise of the business' existence, and funnily enough, I suspect that money means a lot more to the corporate suit-fillers than the religious beliefs of a few entitled employees. I know that if the cashier at one of my local grocery stores tried to tell he would ring my pork through, I'd look at him ( or her) and say " why, because your favorite sky daddy says so?" Then I'd drop everything and walk out.
Here is what I do not understand. Why did this person take the job knowing he would handle pork and booze and then make a stink of it publicly. He couldve ask his manager for job doing something else like produce, or perhaps skipped over the job in the first place. But no the asshole has put his employers in a super awkward position. If they move or fire him now he'll probably scream racism or islamaphobia and if don't fire him people will spout off on the boss and never come back.
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