Can an Atheist know anything?

[ThomM]

To answer the question at the end of your post

"If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?"


Uh - no - there are at least 20 different gods spoken of in the bible - including the Jewish one.

However - even if the GOD of the Jews were proven to be real - that does not make the Myth of the Christ any more proven. AND - proving the god of the jews actually disproves the christ - since the christ is NOT the jewish messiah as well.

[Jackalope]

"How much shit would a shameless Christian shovel if a shameless Christian would shovel it?"

If?

[MindForgedManacle]

Given that atheists don't believe in absolute truth.
Without absolute truth no one can discern a lie.
Knowing something requires discerning truth from lies.
Atheists can't know anything.

Discuss.

What the heck is 'absolute truth' even supposed to be? If you just mean truths that you can't be wrong about, then I would suggest the laws of thought as such. Therefore, atheists (and anyone else) can know things. Perhaps you should stop letting presuppositionalists give you such an anal pounding so you can stop regurgitating their shit.

[Nineteen]

I think that atheists do believe in absolute truth, but just do not claim to know what it is. And even if they didn't believe in absolute truth, for argument's sake, then that doesn't mean that they "can't know anything" because to know something - like knowing what the name of this forum is, for example - doesn't necessarily require you (nor anyone else) to believe in absolute truth.

Put more simply, there is a difference between knowing/believing in "absolute truth" and knowing "facts." It's not logical to argue that either of them is necessary for the other to exist.

Put much more simply , atheism is a belief as like other belief types . This is a prrof for their selfishness , they impose their beliefs and strongly opposes other beliefs , they do everything to destroy other beliefs if they have the opportunity .

[Jacob(smooth)]

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Put much more simply , atheism is a belief as like other belief types . This is a prrof for their selfishness , they impose their beliefs and strongly opposes other beliefs , they do everything to destroy other beliefs if they have the opportunity .

Pot, kettle?

Because of course Islam has never been know to try to impose itself on other people of oppose their beliefs.

[Nineteen]

Because of course Islam has never been know to try to impose itself on other people of oppose their beliefs.

Hi ,

Can you prove your claim with a verse from Quran ?

I can prove the opposite .

[Jacob(smooth)]

I could link you to some videos of beheadings if you like. I'd rather not. You can't unsee that shit.

Or are you proposing that you judge atheism but what atheists do, but we judge islam by your interpretation of what the quran says (rather than what muslims do)

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I'm not very familier with your holy book, but perhaps you could explain to me the meaning of 002.193

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah"

[Nineteen]

I could link you to some videos of beheadings if you like. I'd rather not. You can't unsee that shit.

Or are you proposing that you judge atheism but what atheists do, but we judge islam by your interpretation of what the quran says (rather than what muslims do)

Please not so much words , can you prove your claim with a verse from Quran ?

[Jacob(smooth)]

I did. But I'll try the other point in fewer words.

"Muslims often kill people who disagree with their religious laws. "

Or I could try it in one.

"Taliban. "

Or perhaps just some dates

9/11. 7/7.

[Zen Badger]

I could link you to some videos of beheadings if you like. I'd rather not. You can't unsee that shit.

Or are you proposing that you judge atheism but what atheists do, but we judge islam by your interpretation of what the quran says (rather than what muslims do)

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I'm not very familier with your holy book, but perhaps you could explain to me the meaning of 002.193

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah"

I saw one today where Taliban members had captured and beheaded some Pakistan policemen then used their heads as footballs.

The Taliban had declared the policemen apostate because they had been ordered to arrest them.

Mind you this is not the Taliban killing Christians or Kurds etc. But killing fellow Muslims.

Now the question I have to ask is"Where is the outrage? Where are the protests?

Muslims are always quick to scream jihad if someone draws a fucking CARTOON.

But something like this which is truly offensive to any normal person?

Not a fucking peep.