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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 13, 2014 at 4:29 pm
Atheism doesn't need a defence. You do that for us.
And we see your persecution complex is coming up too, how nice! But I would like you to know I think all religions are equally full of bullshit, not just yours.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 13, 2014 at 4:30 pm
People can be convinced to believe just about anything. Even in the present day. It's not all that hard to believe.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 13, 2014 at 4:39 pm
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(February 13, 2014 at 4:29 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Atheism doesn't need a defence. You do that for us.
So the argument goes that there is no (reason to believe in) God because in your own opinion there isn't and your own opinion is automatically true so there is no reason back it up with anything? 
Quote:And we see your persecution complex is coming up too, how nice! But I would like you to know I think all religions are equally full of bullshit, not just yours.
So any opinion you happen to have automatically becomes an objective truth you can simply just state as fact and everyone has to agree with it for no reason? Okay then.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 13, 2014 at 4:52 pm
The idea that supernatural beings don't exist should be the default until proven otherwise. Yahweh doesn't exist unless proven. Unicorns, fairies, vampires, and other beings don't exist unless proven. That is why etheism doesn't need a defense.
I don't have to disprove Vishnu, Zeus, Osiris, Odin, Zoroaster, and all the other gods too, do I?
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 13, 2014 at 6:22 pm
(February 13, 2014 at 4:39 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: So the argument goes that there is no (reason to believe in) God because in your own opinion there isn't and your own opinion is automatically true so there is no reason back it up with anything?
So the argument goes that there is a reason to believe in God because in your own opinion there is and your own opinion is automatically true so there so no reason to back it up with anything.
Sounds stupid, that's exactly what you just did to me. If you want to argue that everything is about opinions, i'm out. It's not worth it. And BTW nice strawman.
I lack a belief in your god because you have not met your burden of proof. Simple
(February 13, 2014 at 4:39 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: So any opinion you happen to have automatically becomes an objective truth you can simply just state as fact and everyone has to agree with it for no reason? Okay then.
And again, another complete strawman from a stroppy little child who doesn't like his beliefs being called into question.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 13, 2014 at 6:39 pm
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 13, 2014 at 6:44 pm
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(February 13, 2014 at 4:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:We're all equal in God's eyes, but we have different roles, just as Jesus was obedient to the Father even though they were equally God.
How can you spout such absurd blather with a straight face?
I work under my boss and obey his directives, but as a person I'm equal to him. His role at work is to be my boss. For marriage God set it up for the husband to be the head of the family. He never declared the woman to be unequal to the man. What's absurd about that?
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 14, 2014 at 3:42 am
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(February 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a conversation with Christian girl yesterday and it randomly led to the subject of homosexuality.
She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to be a homosexual because you should be able to love anyone you want.
I asked her how she could say that and call herself a Christian. She became iritated. I pointed out that her Bible clearly states that it is an abomination. She finally said " I don't care what it says" and ended the conversation. The stress caused by the cognitive dissonance was pretty high.
I find Christians do this a lot. They reject what they don't like in the Bible.
To believe in God doesn't mean you will automatically understand everything. The girl clearly doesn't know that homosexuality isn't condemned in the bible and so couldn't tell you that. Her basic answer was correct and in line with her belief. If she had agreed with you then there would indeed be dissonance.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 14, 2014 at 3:47 am
(February 14, 2014 at 3:42 am)fr0d0 Wrote: (February 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a conversation with Christian girl yesterday and it randomly led to the subject of homosexuality.
She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to be a homosexual because you should be able to love anyone you want.
I asked her how she could say that and call herself a Christian. She became iritated. I pointed out that her Bible clearly states that it is an abomination. She finally said " I don't care what it says" and ended the conversation. The stress caused by the cognitive dissonance was pretty high.
I find Christians do this a lot. They reject what they don't like in the Bible.
To believe in God doesn't mean you will automatically understand everything. The girl clearly doesn't know that homosexuality isn't condemned in the bible and so couldn't tell you that. Her basic answer was correct and in line with her belief. If she had agreed with you then there would indeed be dissonance.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 14, 2014 at 3:48 am
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(February 13, 2014 at 4:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The idea that supernatural beings don't exist should be the default until proven otherwise. Yahweh doesn't exist unless proven. Unicorns, fairies, vampires, and other beings don't exist unless proven. That is why etheism doesn't need a defense.
I don't have to disprove Vishnu, Zeus, Osiris, Odin, Zoroaster, and all the other gods too, do I?
Isn't that what we all think?
I don't claim that God exists. I believe that he does.
You don't claim that any deity doesn't exist. If you did then the burden of proof would be yours, just as it would be the burden of anyone claiming the opposite.
(February 14, 2014 at 3:47 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: f0d0! Where you been man?
Good to see you back. hoping all is well with you and yours.
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