(March 7, 2014 at 8:05 pm)Miss Meng Wrote:(March 7, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Do you think anyone actually cares about the drivel you post except you?
And you are a vile little man with no manners or courtesy and ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for posting such a disgusting, bullyish remark. Of course you won't give a damn. You can leave Fr0d0 well alone. You will have to go through me first. You truly are horrendous.
~ Miss M
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A small thanks to the resident Theists..
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
March 8, 2014 at 2:28 am
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2014 at 2:49 am by Mystical.)
(March 7, 2014 at 8:05 pm)Miss Meng Wrote:(March 7, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Do you think anyone actually cares about the drivel you post except you? Mrs. Fr0d0, is that you?? (March 7, 2014 at 8:08 pm)Godschild Wrote:(March 7, 2014 at 2:29 pm)Luckie Wrote: Way to just push the goal posts back to generalizations rather than address the fact that nowhere in the Bible does it say hell is merely an 'absence of god'.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Missy, so you're claiming to be a good Christian now? Yes, that figures. You don't look like a beacon of light to me. You look like a bitter twisted person who believes what she's told to believe. You're nastiness to people on here isn't you, that's some illusion I'm imagining.
YOU think only people can do good if they are Christians, as you're brainwashed into it. You can't think outside the box, even now when you're not a Christian. I don't think that no one can do any good without belief. You see me saying the opposite above, yet still you come out with that rubbish. You're comment "Mrs fr0d0" - that's you being a beacon of light is it? Again, your either a liar or seriously deluded. And I believe the latter. "None are righteous" - Romans. Not a single one of us. Not me, not you. None of us can judge. Yet your Christian life seems to be only you judging other people, other people judging you or you judging yourself. That seems to be clearly anti Christian to me. Your morals follow the fashion. That's one kind of morality. A kind of morality that may be looked upon as immoral when the fashion changes. Your reference for the highest moral standard that you claim seems to be very suspect. You think you have the highest moral standard possible, because you have no better reference. I agree. You don't. "Demonstrate how my calling you on being true to your bible, and what it says-------all of it------ is a cheap shot?" You want to take a literal mistranslation and use that to prove your point. That's a common atheist trick. It's simply dishonest. I don't think you understood when you were a Christian and when you were not. You seem to have always stated that because you lived the letter of biblical law you should have been saved. But the bible says the opposite. I recall that you thought you were totally blameless, yet you, and your "Christian" advisors thought that God cursed you with illness, and that you must have been, still are probably, an evil person. Am I right? I wouldn't be surprised if your church turned out to be lead by Fred Phelps. I guess you think he's a just man? Did I say you were going to hell? lol. I said you were batting for the other side. The side which opposes "beacons of light" in anyone eyes. If you appear to be the opposite of what you say am I supposed to ignore that?
I can't even begin to fathom why you would say I believe what the drivel in the Bible says. Again you are completely off base and building a strawman. Before I reply in depth, explain to me how your following quote demonstrates anything other than your inability to discern good acts irregardless of faith.
(March 7, 2014 at 7:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote: It doesn't make me into a good person. It gives me the potential to be a good person where you don't have that potential, without being able to justify rationally a just universe.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
I'm out of this discussion Missy. It's completely pointless. We've been over this subject a few times now. If you have anything new to discuss, then I'll entertain that. I won't victory dance over your grave if you don't mine.
I'm sorry we've got a bit negative this time. That does neither of us any good. It certainly doesn't lead to growing in any understanding of either of our points of view. If you'd like to continue afresh in a friendly manner, I might entertain that too. I'm certainly not up for megalith posts as I'm restricted to my mobile and simply don't have the capacity to. Take care. RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
March 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2014 at 7:37 pm by Mystical.)
oh I see. You're going to come, make bare assertions, call me a devil worshipper (still makes me lol!), claim victory over a non competition, and bow run away?
All I asked, was for you to support your beliefs about hell and compare them to what the Bible says about it. Something neither you nor godschild seem to be able to do.If you have to water down hell to justify your belief in your religion, then, that's fine. Don't ever tell me I'm going to hell, fr0d0. Especially if you can't even face The reality of your religion's belief system. ETA: I'm also on my mobile a majority of the time; I get on my computer for long posts because that's just what needs to happen if you wish to be included in a lengthier discussion than "get religion, you atheists!".
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
You say lots of things that other people say that they haven't Missy.
I respectfully answered you on the hell question. Do you recall my answer? I don't have to water anything down. I like to scrutinise everything. If you don't then that's fine by me. But then I'm not the one dissing other people's beliefs. If I don't believe in hell, why would I tell you that you're going there lol You make no sense. (March 7, 2014 at 8:04 pm)Godschild Wrote:(March 7, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Do you think anyone actually cares about the drivel you post except you? Higher thinking.......... More like thinking while you're high. If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71. RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
March 9, 2014 at 10:56 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2014 at 11:07 am by Menos.)
(March 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Luckie Wrote: oh I see. You're going to come, make bare assertions, call me a devil worshipper (still makes me lol!), claim victory over a non competition, and bow run away? he answered u already if u bothered to read it..DUH. (March 9, 2014 at 10:56 am)Menos Wrote:(March 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Luckie Wrote: oh I see. You're going to come, make bare assertions, call me a devil worshipper (still makes me lol!), claim victory over a non competition, and bow run away? Oh, cute. |
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