Vaccines are a plot by big pharma!

[psychoslice]

Na, I've already told you how I feel, I'm not going to go on and on just for your amusement, believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want, and a big goodnight to you all.

[KichigaiNeko]

And so, he/ she, with no evidence to back his/ her claims, bows out of any REAL discussion.

Yes I still see you online, 'slice' you're clearly very uneducated and can believe what you want. Don't start screaming at science when things go amiss. Also you were born in 1957? The very year that Jonas Salk created the first successful vaccine for Polio?

Well done.

[Jacob(smooth)]

Na, I've already told you how I feel, I'm not going to go on and on just for your amusement, believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want, and a big goodnight to you all.

Hey, I go to bed and you have your argument without me .

Go if you must. But if you can manage just one answer for me I'd be very grateful. It's very simple, a yes or no answer to help me understand your position. It is professionally relevant to me so it helps me to understand where people who hold your views are coming from.

Do you believe that the polio vaccine prevents people from getting polio?

[thesummerqueen]

"If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you."

Psycho, you sound like every idiot portrayal of an irrational, dumbass woman stereotype in Hollywood ever.

[KichigaiNeko]

The polio vac. back in the late 50's has now been seen to cause cancer, as I said earlier I had epileptic fits for around 3 to 4 years after taking the vaccine, I also had cancer a few years ago, I live a healthy life, and as I also said earlier I have schizophrenia. Now don't preach to me about vaccines are not being harmful, it makes me sick.

Are you serious! FFS!

All of my parents ancestors died of some type of cancer. Shit you really must be American to be so uneducated.

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"vactruth dot com" Wow. Just wow. Vactruth. I mean...what the heck? How do you expect us to take something like this seriously? Ever hear of "Truthers"? They are 9/11 conspiracy theorists. This is exactly the kind of medium in which the Truthers post their literature. You are getting your information from an agenda-driven source. Do you have anything from a medical journal? A peer-reviewed study? Double-blind? Please, let us know.

Medical journals are not really a good source, because they are too bias, don't forget they want their doctors to administrate this crap.

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Correlation =/= causation. You having epileptic seizures following the vaccine is simply and only evidence of you having epileptic seizures, not that the vaccine caused the onset of the seizures. The taking of the vaccine merely coincides with the onset of seizures, but you have no proof that the vaccine was the cause.

Or do you?

And you don't have any evidence that it didn't causes it, why not look up the polio vac. and what it has caused, I was vac. back in 1959.

Seriously, you are a Poe.

You can't possibly be this uneducated

[Psykhronic]

I'm not going to go on and on just for your amusement

You fail to see how your mindset is damaging to humanity and we take this shit seriously. You are not amusing. You are sad and scary.

[thesummerqueen]

It really can't be that the medical establishment - at the same time as promoting vaccines to rid ourselves of the diseases we can beat - has also gotten exponentially better at diagnosing and categorizing cancer, leading to a "perceived" increase when in reality only actually catching what was already there...

[Esquilax]

Well my darling little girl, I am 57, and I have also plenty of youtube evidence as I already have shown, and there are many many more. I admit that vaccination may have something good in it, but there are so many, there's a vaccination coming out for just about everything you can think of, and this is what I am really on about. Even animals are being vaccinated more than ever, and hello!, their also starting to develop cancers more than ever, and all of this is for the dollar, the mighty dollar. Surly you must see some truth in this, as I can see some truth in what you are saying /.

One hundred percent of people who get vaccinated will die. Therefore, vaccines cause death. Therefore, the fact that there are more vaccines means that people are dying overlapping deaths.

Vaccines cause double, sometimes triple deaths. By your logic, this is also true.

[Kayenneh]

And one funny thing I'd like to point out at this time. The SV40, which may cause cancer (eyeing through a handful of research, they have all come up inconclusive), was the problem with the polio vaccine, not the vaccine itself. It's like saying that avocado causes bloody diarrhea and projectile vomiting, when you cut it open with a knife contaminated with E. coli..

[TaraJo]

Ok, wow. I step away for a couple of days and the thread explodes, mostly due to one certain derper within our midst. Not naming names here, but if you come in spouting this 'vaccines are bad' garbage, you might find the guilty party when you look in your mirror.

Yes, rates for several different diseases and conditions and disorders have gone up as vaccine dependence has gone up. This is NOT because of the vaccine, but because of better diagnosis of those conditions. Kids are just as likely to be autistic or have ADHD in the middle of some African refuge camp as they are here, but since they lack good medical resources, their psych condition isn't going to be diagnosed and they aren't going to get a vaccine. So I can see where the correlation comes from, but it's hardly something we should emulate.

Might also benefit you to pay attention to what happens to groups of people who collectively reject vaccines. Surprise surprise, they get sick. Just ask Kenneth Copeland about this one: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy...cines.html

Here's the other scary thing: if youre vaccinated but everyone else around you isn't, you might want to move. Herd immunity works against you and if everyone else around you is sick with a germ that you had a vaccine for, well, even the best immune system isn't going to be able to keep up with that many pathogens coming at them all at once.