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Not an atheist, have a question.
#11
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
Ok boru, at least you made an effort, so i'll give you a 2nd chance.

Quote:Because things like cats, cuttlefish, pandas and people don't do very well in an environment that consist of hydrogen plasma at a temperature of 10^32K.

What kept that super cat from existing?

A super cat which can survive in these early conditions you described, just like that super being we call "fish" which can survive marine conditions... conditions which pandas and people can never survive.
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#12
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
(March 26, 2014 at 8:17 pm)mohd.ktln Wrote: Ok boru, at least you made an effort, so i'll give you a 2nd chance.

Quote:Because things like cats, cuttlefish, pandas and people don't do very well in an environment that consist of hydrogen plasma at a temperature of 10^32K.

What kept that super cat from existing?

A super cat which can survive in these early conditions you described, just like that super being we call "fish" which can survive marine conditions... conditions which pandas and people can never survive.

How gracious. 2nd chances are rare. Would you mind getting to the finale? I feel like you are asking leading questions. Why not skip to the chase and make a point?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#13
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
Second chance? For what? Stranger comes stomping in, demands answers, and is giving chances for what? Your approval?

Arrgghh
Pointing around: "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out!"
Half Baked

"Let the atheists come to me, and stop keeping them away, because the kingdom of heathens belongs to people like these." -Saint Bacon
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#14
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
(March 26, 2014 at 8:21 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(March 26, 2014 at 8:17 pm)mohd.ktln Wrote: Ok boru, at least you made an effort, so i'll give you a 2nd chance.


What kept that super cat from existing?

A super cat which can survive in these early conditions you described, just like that super being we call "fish" which can survive marine conditions... conditions which pandas and people can never survive.

How gracious. 2nd chances are rare. Would you mind getting to the finale? I feel like you are asking leading questions. Why not skip to the chase and make a point?

These are just round-about ways of trying to confuse the issue and the ending with, "Therefore god!"

Otherwise known as word salad and desperate attempts to justify beliefs.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#15
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
Quote:The pen will fall.

Perhaps he thinks he if he does not "believe" in gravity the pen will float in the air?
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#16
Not an atheist, have a question.
Pen's ntelligently falling theorem?
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#17
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.


No, the pen doesn't have to fall. That it will fall is a supposition based on an assumption that the laws of nature are uniform, and will continue to operate in the future as they have in the past. (We can reason that they have behaved similarly throughout various past times because if they hadn't, the universe we see today would be different than what it is.)

Your questions about life are best answered by saying that we don't know specifically why the types of life we witness today are the only types that we have evidence of existing. It's hoped that once we have better ideas on how this kind of life started, we may have better ideas about why it alone exists, but until the riddle of abiogenesis is solved, we simply do not know.

As to the rest, the specific type of life that exists has certain requirements for it being here and flourishing, one of which is the presence of heavy elements, which didn't exist at the beginning of the universe, as they only form from the remains of prior stars. Thus it only exists in certain environments that either historically or contingently were required for them to flourish, without which they would not do so. (One speculation is that life on earth originally formed in the vicinity of deep sea thermal vents. This is just to point out that the relationship between current life, and original life, is not necessarily direct or obvious.)

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#18
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
Ah. Now rasetsu is going to get a second chance.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#19
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
I don't give second chances OP.... you blew it big time .... Fail

Oh and welcome #247
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#20
RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
(March 26, 2014 at 7:18 pm)mohd.ktln Wrote: BTW English is not my 1st language, thank you.

That isn't what concerns me. I suspect you're new to rational thought too.
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