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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 8:17 pm
Ok boru, at least you made an effort, so i'll give you a 2nd chance.
Quote:Because things like cats, cuttlefish, pandas and people don't do very well in an environment that consist of hydrogen plasma at a temperature of 10^32K.
What kept that super cat from existing?
A super cat which can survive in these early conditions you described, just like that super being we call "fish" which can survive marine conditions... conditions which pandas and people can never survive.
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 8:21 pm
(March 26, 2014 at 8:17 pm)mohd.ktln Wrote: Ok boru, at least you made an effort, so i'll give you a 2nd chance.
Quote:Because things like cats, cuttlefish, pandas and people don't do very well in an environment that consist of hydrogen plasma at a temperature of 10^32K.
What kept that super cat from existing?
A super cat which can survive in these early conditions you described, just like that super being we call "fish" which can survive marine conditions... conditions which pandas and people can never survive.
How gracious. 2nd chances are rare. Would you mind getting to the finale? I feel like you are asking leading questions. Why not skip to the chase and make a point?
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 8:30 pm
Second chance? For what? Stranger comes stomping in, demands answers, and is giving chances for what? Your approval?
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 8:30 pm
(March 26, 2014 at 8:21 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (March 26, 2014 at 8:17 pm)mohd.ktln Wrote: Ok boru, at least you made an effort, so i'll give you a 2nd chance.
What kept that super cat from existing?
A super cat which can survive in these early conditions you described, just like that super being we call "fish" which can survive marine conditions... conditions which pandas and people can never survive.
How gracious. 2nd chances are rare. Would you mind getting to the finale? I feel like you are asking leading questions. Why not skip to the chase and make a point?
These are just round-about ways of trying to confuse the issue and the ending with, "Therefore god!"
Otherwise known as word salad and desperate attempts to justify beliefs.
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 8:35 pm
Quote:The pen will fall.
Perhaps he thinks he if he does not "believe" in gravity the pen will float in the air?
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Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 9:15 pm
Pen's ntelligently falling theorem?
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 9:17 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2014 at 9:20 pm by Angrboda.)
No, the pen doesn't have to fall. That it will fall is a supposition based on an assumption that the laws of nature are uniform, and will continue to operate in the future as they have in the past. (We can reason that they have behaved similarly throughout various past times because if they hadn't, the universe we see today would be different than what it is.)
Your questions about life are best answered by saying that we don't know specifically why the types of life we witness today are the only types that we have evidence of existing. It's hoped that once we have better ideas on how this kind of life started, we may have better ideas about why it alone exists, but until the riddle of abiogenesis is solved, we simply do not know.
As to the rest, the specific type of life that exists has certain requirements for it being here and flourishing, one of which is the presence of heavy elements, which didn't exist at the beginning of the universe, as they only form from the remains of prior stars. Thus it only exists in certain environments that either historically or contingently were required for them to flourish, without which they would not do so. (One speculation is that life on earth originally formed in the vicinity of deep sea thermal vents. This is just to point out that the relationship between current life, and original life, is not necessarily direct or obvious.)
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 9:19 pm
Ah. Now rasetsu is going to get a second chance.
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 9:22 pm
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I don't give second chances OP.... you blew it big time .... Fail
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RE: Not an atheist, have a question.
March 26, 2014 at 9:30 pm
(March 26, 2014 at 7:18 pm)mohd.ktln Wrote: BTW English is not my 1st language, thank you.
That isn't what concerns me. I suspect you're new to rational thought too.
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